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Re: New archive DVDs...
| Bob Larter | 25 Nov 2009 06:38 |
> In 500 years you could have TWC, "The World Corporation", wipe out access > to all recorded knowledge in order to control you better. In their [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Punishable by death. The method to read optical data could disappear in > well under 150 years. Not that you're paranoid of anything...
> I have a box of 8" dia. floppy-disks in my storage shed (single-sided, 168k > capacity). Do you have a drive, interface card, and the software to read [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > it that way to prevent a presently undeserving populace from having that > knowledge just yet. LOL. It figures that you're the kind of schizophrenic nutcase who imagines that he's made major discoveries.
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| Think | 18 Nov 2009 02:02 |
>> >> Supposed to last for 1000 years. Instead of an organic dye, they have >> >> some mineral, and they need a special burner, that costs $5000. If you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >prevented from reading a crude optical disk because specific players >weren't available. You mean like all the knowledge and wisdom that was lost during The Dark Ages and the christians' Crusades when they destroyed everything according to christians' laws? From which we still haven't recovered nor found what was lost.
E.g.1 There remain hints to important herbal cures once known, but not the actual cures. I studied herbalism/herbology for over a decade looking for a cure for something that has no known cure today but there was a cure in the distant past. I always ran into the christian-created Dark Ages' brick-wall-of-ignorance in my research, no matter which avenue I used to try to uncover that knowledge. Time and time again. E.g.2 There remain hints of the Druids, but no actual writings nor factual information about their real-life existence. Any books written on them today are just author's fabrications and speculations, no matter what anyone might claim to the contrary. (This is why Druids are a favorite of historian authors, nobody can disprove what an author might conjure up about them.) E.g.3 Etc.
It's not just a matter of storage-media technology, it's a huge matter of human behavior and values.
In 500 years you could have TWC, "The World Corporation", wipe out access to all recorded knowledge in order to control you better. In their corporate wars they might bury the technology needed to read optical-media by generations 500 years from now (if those generations even still exist). Creating their laws that their obedient and brainwashed indentured-servants will carry out for them. That all knowledge be moved to their newly "patented" muon nano-cube storage system. All previous storage means destroyed, by law. They then edit out the pertinent parts that they don't want anyone to know, so that nobody can ever go back and reclaim the knowledge needed to undermine their self-imposed and self-declared authority over you. (No different than what christians did just before their having caused and created The Dark Ages and remain defending their actions and values to this very day.) The means to reclaim that knowledge no longer taught in schools, it's now a TWC corporate crime to do so. Punishable by death. The method to read optical data could disappear in well under 150 years.
I have a box of 8" dia. floppy-disks in my storage shed (single-sided, 168k capacity). Do you have a drive, interface card, and the software to read them? This is from only 30 years ago. Yes, they could be read. But who still has the proper hardware, cables, and software readily available? Who is going to go through all that trouble and expense just to see what might be on all those unmarked floppies to try to reclaim any fading data? Some genius might have recorded the means to jump through time and space in a text-file digital journal on one of them. His intentional method of storing it that way to prevent a presently undeserving populace from having that knowledge just yet. But who's going to go look for, or even suspect that? The knowledge now lost forever due to a simple storage-media shift in less than 40 years. The hardware too difficult to find, too costly a venture, there's probably nothing interesting on them anyway even if you could recover the data on them. It's just not worth the bother. Toss them in the incinerator.
Just as they might do with any old optical media of yours that they might find in another 50 years. There's too many other things going on to waste their time on your old CDs and DVDs and hard-drives. It might even be made illegal to have something like that in your possession. So you blindly obey, just as you now all blindly obey to all present corporate and religion invented laws. You've been socially programmed to do so, whether you want to believe that or not. Toss 'em, burn 'em. There's nothing interesting on them anyway and you might get in trouble with someone's laws for even wanting to see what's on them.
The actual storage-media and method used is just a tiny fraction of the real problem.
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| Rich | 17 Nov 2009 17:59 |
> >> Supposed to last for 1000 years. Instead of an organic dye, they have > >> some mineral, and they need a special burner, that costs $5000. If you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > mechanized infantry reservist > hordad AT otenet DOT gr I honestly doubt that any civilization 500 years from now would be prevented from reading a crude optical disk because specific players weren't available.
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| Tzortzakakis Dimitrios | 17 Nov 2009 14:56 |
>> Supposed to last for 1000 years. Instead of an organic dye, they have >> some mineral, and they need a special burner, that costs $5000. If you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I see, and if after say 5 or 6 hundred years the thing becomes non > readable, do I get a refund. lol, never thought of that. The problem would be that in a couple generations the optical drives will be obsolete to quantum drives or whatever the new technology woil be.
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| Dave Cohen | 16 Nov 2009 20:16 |
> Supposed to last for 1000 years. Instead of an organic dye, they have some > mineral, and they need a special burner, that costs $5000. If you want to > send the data to the company, it costs 30 euros for a DVD (4.7 GB, of > course). Full story here, only in german: > http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/0,1518,661479,00.html I see, and if after say 5 or 6 hundred years the thing becomes non readable, do I get a refund.
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| Tzortzakakis Dimitrios | 16 Nov 2009 17:00 |
Supposed to last for 1000 years. Instead of an organic dye, they have some mineral, and they need a special burner, that costs $5000. If you want to send the data to the company, it costs 30 euros for a DVD (4.7 GB, of course). Full story here, only in german: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/0,1518,661479,00.html
 Signature Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist hordad AT otenet DOT gr
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