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Re: canon 20D flash sync at 1/320?

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Re: canon 20D flash sync at 1/320?

peter19 May 2007 20:49
> With that and your experience it's reasonable to assume that the max
> shutter speed is conservative by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop to allow for
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> due to the great inefficiency of HSS, you'll actually save flash batteries
> with a 2 stop ND in place once you're at 1/1000 (or so) and faster.

Thanks, you're the only reply that understands my need (almost). I do plan
to use a ND filter to reduce DOF.

If I can cheat the sync speed, I could effectively reduce the sunlight's
intensity and enable fill-in flash at greater shooting distance, or save
flash power at the same distance (battery pack last longer), and less
blinding flash into the subjects' eyes.

This auto-limiting sync speed in *manual mode* reminds me of parents who
tell their child they can do whatever they want, and then meddle in the
child's business.

Alan Browne19 May 2007 15:07
> When I attach a canon speedlite 550ex (high speed sync off) on a 20D, the
> shutter speed automatically reduced to 1/250s if I had it faster.
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> Any ideas? I checked all the custom functions and none of them look like it
> would help.

As I'm sure you know, flash sync speed is driven by shutter mechanics.
Faster shutters allow faster sync speeds, the best for FP shutters being
1/300 (Minolta, Nikon).  Canon max sync speeds are 1/250.  (Some Nikon
dslr's like the D70 also have electronic shuttering in the way they use
the sensor thereby achieving 1/500 flash sync).

It's tough doing fast shutters.  Nikon have reduced the max sync in the
F6 to 1/250 from 1/300 (F5).  OTOH, the added value is also questionable.

With my Maxxum 9 (flash sync=1/300) I can get 1/350 shots using the
flash sync terminal.  With my Maxxum 7D (flash sync=1/160) I can get
1/200.  With a Maxxum flash it of course limits it to 1/300 and 1/160
respectively (and 1/125 with anti-shake activated).

With that and your experience it's reasonable to assume that the max
shutter speed is conservative by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop to allow for
manufacturing variance, environment (temperature) and aging.

Bret and John recommend high-speed sync but that reduces your available
power considerably, esp. when you get to 1/1000 and faster.  Most of the
flash light is wasted on the shutter curtains... it remains a good way
to get shallow DOF on bright scenes where you want some action freeze
and fill in the foreground.

But then so does a ND filter with normal sync flash... and paradoxically
due to the great inefficiency of HSS, you'll actually save flash
batteries with a 2 stop ND in place once you're at 1/1000 (or so) and
faster.

Cheers,
Alan

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peter19 May 2007 05:14
When I attach a canon speedlite 550ex (high speed sync off) on a 20D, the
shutter speed automatically reduced to 1/250s if I had it faster.

Is there a way to override this?

I found by experiment, I can flash sync at 1/320s (the experiment is done
with a 3rd party flash that does not change the shutter speed). So I would
like to use this speed with the canon speedlite, but it won't let me.

Any ideas? I checked all the custom functions and none of them look like it
would help.

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