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Re: Lizard Tech - Genuine Fractals
| AAvK | 23 Sep 2006 10:35 |
> I haven't tried this filter but the examples I saw didn't seem to look > any better than what you can get with Photoshop, for example these two [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Bill That last link is very old by a few years. GF is now owned by OnOne software and it's version 4, no saving stn files anymore. And it goes up to 800%.
But thanks for the Clarkvision link, don't want to spend more money these days. Currently I have GF 2.5 and have happily used it since I bought it, with perfect results.
Because of this thread I tested CS1's bicubic work for both sharper and smoother against GF 2.5 as follows:
800 x 600 x 72ppi to 4800 x 3600 x 300ppi (600% up)
I had never tested this before since PS 5, and was quite pleasently surprized! PS's BC smoother is perfect. Should I upgrade GF for $69? Maybe not!
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| Bill Hilton | 22 Sep 2006 22:36 |
>> Bill Hilton <bhilton665@aol.com> wrote: >> >> Many people have come to the same conclusion. I had GF 2.0 (bundled >> with a scanner) and tested it on several images and felt I could get >> better results with Photoshop too, at least at the magnifications I used.
>Bill Tuthill wrote: > > That's interesting, because I have compared the Lanczos filter in Irfanview > and ImageMagick with Photoshop bicubic and bicubic smoother. In all cases > where upsampling aspect ratio remained 1:1, Lanczos produce sharper/smoother > edges and better detail. I haven't tried this filter but the examples I saw didn't seem to look any better than what you can get with Photoshop, for example these two pages using older versions of Photoshop ...
http://www.fredmiranda.com/SI/ http://www.americaswonderlands.com/digital_photo_interpolation.htm
Roger Clark has a page on upsamping using "Adaptive Richardson-Lucy Iteration" and feels that works the best ... you can download the fox image snippet and run your software and see if you get something as good or better ... when I did this using just Photoshop and my normal three-step workflow (which includes two sharpening passes) that I use for printing Roger thought it looked about as good what he gets with R-L, except instead of taking 90 minutes to run I could do it in 3 minutes ... at any rate if you can beat his example Roger would like to see it. This is useful info because it's a standardized image. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/image-restoration1/index.html
Note that different methods might give better or worse results depending on the image (and the operator if sharpening is included). For example here's a test (by someone selling GF, just as the guy selling a Stair Interpolation action came up with an image that looks good upsized using SI) that shows GF is better than Photoshop, at least for this image ... http://www.inkjetart.com/news/gf/ ... but it's irrelevant to me because they rasterized a vector image and then ran the tests and none of my images are vector-like images. Few photos are.
Bill
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| Bill Tuthill | 22 Sep 2006 20:39 |
>> Has anyone tried Genuine Fractals plug-in for photoshop? I bought the >> 3.0LE version a couple of years ago but have never got it to work as [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > with a scanner) and tested it on several images and felt I could get > better results with Photoshop too, at least at the magnifications I used. That's interesting, because I have compared the Lanczos filter in Irfanview and ImageMagick with Photoshop bicubic and bicubic smoother. In all cases where upsampling aspect ratio remained 1:1, Lanczos produce sharper/smoother edges and better detail. Perhaps bicubic might be better when changing X and Y axes in different ratios; it is known for that.
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| Bill Hilton | 21 Sep 2006 20:13 |
>Pte...@aol.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the result is no different from the same enlargement using Photoshop's > bicubic re-sampling! Many people have come to the same conclusion. I had GF 2.0 (bundled with a scanner) and tested it on several images and felt I could get better results with Photoshop too, at least at the magnifications I was using.
Bill
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| Pte227@aol.com | 21 Sep 2006 19:51 |
Hi Everyone Has anyone tried Genuine Fractals plug-in for photoshop? I bought the 3.0LE version a couple of years ago but have never got it to work as Lizard Tech claim. It is supposed to enlarge up to 600% with virtually no loss of resolution. When I enlarge an image using Genuine Fractals the result is no different from the same enlargement using Photoshop's bicubic re-sampling! I guess I must be doing something wrong but I've tried many times following the manual instructions as best I can. Anyone got any ideas where I am going wrong? Thanks & Regards Pte
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