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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / General Topics / November 2007Where get darkroom timer (for timing PC use)
Am in the UK. Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? I want to use it for timing how long I spend at the PC! Freestanding. No mains supply. From zero: can START + STOP + CONTINUE (etc). RESET too. Preferably analogue. Preferably noisy! (I do NOT want anything which runs on a PC.) http://www.patersonphotographic.com/accessories/tripletimer.jpg http://preview.tinyurl.com/29lyvm are not really clear enough. http://www.silverprint.co.uk/pics/Hanhart.jpg is too expensive at £65! > Am in the UK. > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Preferably noisy! How about a chess clock?  SignatureSue >> Am in the UK. >> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > How about a chess clock? Download this free program (If you are using MS Windows) PC Usage Viewer shows the times your computer has been active with no previous setup required. http://www.pointstone.com/products/PCUsageViewer/ -- AsleB;Oslo;Norway Just tried the PC USAGE TIMER, but does not seem to be working. All dates logged are 2005, loads of them, and it's not tracking me. Hope the other software they sell on the site is better than that. Mikey ---------------------------------------------- I use the Journal in Outlook. Pisses you off when you see how much time is wasted. >>> Am in the UK. >>> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > AsleB;Oslo;Norway Which part of "(I do NOT want anything which runs on a PC.)" is hard to understand? >>>> Am in the UK. >>>> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Which part of "(I do NOT want anything which runs on a PC.)" is hard to > understand? To be fair, Asle replied to my suggestion and not the OP. And I had snipped that particular line for the sake of brevity.. He may not have even seen the OP. Although I could have asked why he seems to think that I should download this piece of daftware... SignatureSue >Am in the UK. >Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >http://www.silverprint.co.uk/pics/Hanhart.jpg is too expensive at £65! Consider a decent analogue alarm chronograph watch. Most will do split timing (what you want) up to 24hrs total with accuracy often to 1/5 sec, with a 12 hr alarm. You can also extrapolate average time to complete a number of repetitive tasks, calculate average speeds with a tachymeter scale, and work out aircraft fuel consumption, distance travelled etc. if you get a very complicated one, which is a good idea because working out everything it can do and playing about with the buttons will inevitably mean you spend less time playing with the computer. However, on this point, the watch could come in useful for motor sport games and flight simulators. BTW, most darkroom timers nowadays are electronic with digital displays. The old analogue ones were pretty simple, just a 60 minute countdown timer which tinged a bell at the end of the set time. Car boot sales or eBay probably best for them. >> Am in the UK. >> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > countdown timer which tinged a bell at the end of the set time. Car > boot sales or eBay probably best for them. here are many battery-powered cooking timers on the market, most at quite a low price. One of these might serve the OP's needs. Allen 8< How about something like http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Computer-Usage-Timer.shtml > Am in the UK. > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Preferably noisy! How about a Chess Clock? -- Adrian C > Am in the UK. > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://www.silverprint.co.uk/pics/Hanhart.jpg is too expensive at £65! Like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130138647045 ? They turn up on eBay pretty regularly, typically sell for around £10-£20 inc. delivery and never seem to wear out. > Am in the UK. > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? > I want to use it for timing how long I spend at the PC!.... I suspect you are worried that you may be addicted to computers and you want to be rid of the obsession. If not, skip the rest of this post, and accept my apologies. To have a word with your doctor is the more appropriate solution; to have a timing clock is not, for that relies heavily on your will power/self discipline, again. If your present doctor is not sympathetic, change your doctor. Meanwhile you may like to browse through these pages: "Computer / Internet Addiction - Self Diagnosis" http://www.intervention.com/defns.html#compadd "Computer Addiction Services" http://www.computeraddiction.com/ SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >> Am in the UK. >> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "Computer Addiction Services" > http://www.computeraddiction.com/ My interpretation of his post (did not want software, did not want an external power source) was that he is using a machine in a location with a time limit (perhaps a public library) or using some rental service or equipment. I didn't pick up on any psychological issues. Allen >>> Am in the UK. >>> Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > time limit (perhaps a public library) or using some rental service or > equipment. I didn't pick up on any psychological issues. I think the OP wants the clock "noisy" is significant. Use of that in the library is not envisaged. To emphasis, this could be annoyingly loud and clear, perhaps even continuous with the tic-tok as a constant reminder that he has taken a deliberate step in setting up all that for a well meaning purpose at the start of the on-going computer session, and that he has perhaps symbolically made a promise to himself that on this occasion the computer usage will be short and limited. What else could be the explanation that the mechanical clock is required to be heard? That the clock should not be a computer programme, but detached from the machine altogether is also significant. Well, only the OP knows the real answer. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] > That the clock should not be a computer programme, but detached from the > machine altogether is also significant. > > Well, only the OP knows the real answer. I would imagine that its to time the kids and he feels their hacking skills exceed his security skills. Its a common belief that kids know more about computers than adults.. IME it is totally wrong but YMMV. > Well, only the OP knows the real answer. What I don't understand is why he needs to use the comuter in the dark ... > > Lars wrote: > > > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer?.... > > I suspect you are worried that you may be addicted to computers.... > > Well, only the OP knows the real answer. > What I don't understand is why he needs to use the comuter in the dark ... The functions and operations the OP wants can be provided by what he remembers a darkroom timer he was familiar with years ago. The one he has in mind most probably is the Smith's analogue timing clock depicted in the link sent in by Rob Morley above. These were ubiquitous before the 1980's. Virtually all darkrooms used these. I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's or 60's. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] > I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's or > 60's. I may venture to wonder... where has the OP gone???? -- Adrian C >> I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's or >> 60's. > I may venture to wonder... where has the OP gone???? Maybe, Lars (or Larson?) has now returned to Sweden. <g> SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>> I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's or >>> 60's. >> I may venture to wonder... where has the OP gone???? > > Maybe, Lars (or Larson?) has now returned to Sweden. <g> I impatiently await your return to China, if you think you have to introduce ethnicity into this thread. Allen >>>> I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's >>>> or 60's. >>> I may venture to wonder... where has the OP gone???? >> Maybe, Lars (or Larson?) has now returned to Sweden. <g> > I impatiently await your return to China, if you think you have to > introduce ethnicity into this thread. Why the declared xenophobia? The abrupt change of subject for the contrived reason does suggest that Allen is under considerable discomfort -- a sequel to a tacit recognition of defeat in this current discourse, demonstrating an inability to handle stress (nowhere to turn but to the issue of race, the last resort of the beaten), and thereby revealing an inadequate personality. I'll resolutely stop here, for this exchange with a xenophobe or a member of the NFP is demeaning to logic and reasons SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>>>> I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's >>>>> or 60's. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I'll resolutely stop here, for this exchange with a xenophobe or a member of > the NFP is demeaning to logic and reasons I will change my suggestion: Why don't you go to hell; you are the xenophobe. No one else had introduced ethnicity in this thread. Allen >>>>>> I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his >>>>>> 50's or 60's. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I will change my suggestion: Why don't you go to hell; you are the > xenophobe. No one else had introduced ethnicity in this thread. Do you know what ethnic group Lars belongs to? I don't. You are clutching at straws, Allen. Be a man. Take it on the chin, and get on with it. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>> Lars wrote: >>> > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer?.... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I may venture to suggest that most probably too the OP is in his 50's or > 60's. Aw sh.t, you're taking me seriously, aren't you? FWIW I used to have a close working relationship with such clocks, when I began my working life in the early sixties. Therefore, I suppose I may venture to suggest that you stuff your patronising explanation up your chuff. >>>> Lars wrote: >>>> > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer?.... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > venture to suggest that you stuff your patronising explanation up your > chuff. You are taking me seriously, aren't you? Regardless of your intention, your say you are 'just testing' the breathalyser, if it's over the limit when you drive, you will automatically be given a jail term. Except this timer, I made all my gears for developing films and even the technically demanding colour slides -- then a member of CVC (Colour Reversal Club). I remember fashioning a coat hanger wire into a chemical weighing scale (for the very exacting small quantities of chemicals) and a pristine hapenny piece as an exact balancing weight of 1 gram, and the subsequent small weights made out of scraps of paper of ½ gram, ¼ gram,...etc. Also, a thermometer sticking through a polystyrene piece floating on a polyethylene dish washing bowl of water maintained carefully at one precise temperature...etc. I used a 3-foot American enlarger where the colour filters needed just dialed in. It all worked and was great fun, but it was also awfully time consuming! I had a Canon EF with a 24mm lens, among other not so popular gears (Nikon dominated the scene then). Photography was my hobby and I must have spent thousands on it. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>>>> Lars wrote: >>>>> > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer?.... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > breathalyser, if it's over the limit when you drive, you will automatically > be given a jail term. Sorry, I don't think I was a party to that particular conversation. > Except this timer, I made all my gears for developing films and even the > technically demanding colour slides -- then a member of CVC (Colour Reversal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > other not so popular gears (Nikon dominated the scene then). Photography > was my hobby and I must have spent thousands on it. Hmmm, whatever floats your boat (or your thermometer). >> Except this timer, I made all my gears for developing films and even the >> technically demanding colour slides ...Also, a thermometer sticking >> through a polystyrene piece floating... > Hmmm, whatever floats your boat (or your thermometer). I should know. This thing started with the butchering of a pin-hole box 'camera' more than half a century ago, culminating in a tiny, palm-sized gem, which later turned out to be identical to the model the Queen had -- ah....not quite, hers was gold-plated, a gift from the manufacturer, Minox. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>> Except this timer, I made all my gears for developing films and even the >>> technically demanding colour slides ...Also, a thermometer sticking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > gem, which later turned out to be identical to the model the Queen had -- > ah....not quite, hers was gold-plated, a gift from the manufacturer, Minox. Not sure where you're going with this but you just lost a passenger. > Not sure where you're going with this but you just lost a passenger. It's wise to leave the yellow van before the men in white coats take you to the big house. :-) > > Not sure where you're going with this but you just lost a passenger. > It's wise to leave the yellow van before the men in white coats take you > to the big house. When more than the expected info is volunteered in response, look for a subtext. So I see, the subtext is missed. By definition, I wont reveal what it is. Some working knowledge in kinesics, that counterpart of forensics, may prove useful here. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>> Not sure where you're going with this but you just lost a passenger. >> It's wise to leave the yellow van before the men in white coats take you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > what it is. Some working knowledge in kinesics, that counterpart of > forensics, may prove useful here. Is there a prize for figuring this out? > > This thing started with the butchering of a pin-hole box 'camera' more > > than half a century ago, culminating in a tiny, palm-sized gem, which > > later turned out to be identical to the model the Queen had -- ah....not > > quite, hers was gold-plated, a gift from the manufacturer, Minox. > Not sure where you're going with this but you just lost a passenger. I don't take passengers, or prisoners. SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] >>> Except this timer, I made all my gears for developing films and even the >>> technically demanding colour slides ...Also, a thermometer sticking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > gem, which later turned out to be identical to the model the Queen had -- > ah....not quite, hers was gold-plated, a gift from the manufacturer, Minox. I still have a Minox B in a drawer. The light meter was damaged by exposure to coral dust when I was on Guam in 1965. It is such a 'gem' of a camera I couldn't bear to throw it out. Not that it takes up much storage space.... > > ...This thing started with the butchering of a pin-hole box 'camera' > > more than half a century ago, culminating in a tiny, palm-sized gem, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of a camera I couldn't bear to throw it out. Not that it takes up much > storage space.... That must be its Achilles' heel. The light meter in my Minox also turned turtle: it functioned erratically. Still I had more use out of this dinky camera than my SLR. I carried it with me everywhere. People say SLRs are too heavy and bulky. For me that comes second. The prime reason for not using a SLR is it's too conspicuous. There are many social situations where being seen carrying a camera slung round the neck is against the dress code. I can't picture the Queen carrying a camera slung round her neck in a garden party! SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] > > Am in the UK. > > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? > > I want to use it for timing how long I spend at the PC!.... > I suspect you are worried that you may be addicted to computers... This was received just now, published 2 hours ago: "Internet addiction more serious than Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" http://www.physorg.com/news106809802.html SignatureLin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] It's not analog and it doesn't tick but I find a bicycle pocket computer from Aldi has a very useful timer/stop watch funcion that I use for developing etc. I cost peanuts and does the funcions you seek. Murray > Am in the UK. > Where can I get an inexepensive darkroom timer? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://www.silverprint.co.uk/pics/Hanhart.jpg is too expensive at £65! |
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