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AnonGoo - 09 Jun 2007 03:01 GMT

A presentation at the TED2007 (Technology, Entertainment, Design)
Conference demoing integration with Seadragon (acquired by M$ in Feb
2007), now Photosynth is one step closer to rulez all our photos... At
http://geekvideo.blogspot.com/2007/06/photosynth-seadragon-all-your-photos.html

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Noah Stevens - 11 Jun 2007 08:44 GMT

Holy Christ! That's amazing. I don't know if I am shocked or awed or both.
The ramifications of this software in our personal and private and public
lives will be absolutely astounding.

Take for instance, the recent hullaballoo about the google earth photos of
peoples' streets and communities in cities. "Webcams" (webbed cameras?)
watching your street? How about some software bot putting together a model
of your backyard from the various and sundry photos you may post on flickr.
That sound appealing to you?

On the other hand, the demonstration of the Notre Dame pictures just floored
me. Do you know how many photos have been taken of the Eiffel Tower, for
instance? How about Times Square? Speaking of which, I wonder how the
software would handle non-static images in its computations of a model of a
place... Would flickering billboards and people standing in the way of
landmarks give it pause? Judging by the demonstration, it doesn't look like
it stuttered too much.

What a wonderful and scary time we live in. I think I'll just go and take
all the pictures of my friends off of myspace and photobucket, and close my
windows. Turn on my computer and wait to virtually visit some street cafe
in Amsterdam.

>A presentation at the TED2007 (Technology, Entertainment, Design)
> Conference demoing integration with Seadragon (acquired by M$ in Feb
> 2007), now Photosynth is one step closer to rulez all our photos... At
> http://geekvideo.blogspot.com/2007/06/photosynth-seadragon-all-your-photos.html

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KatWoman - 12 Jun 2007 23:39 GMT

> Holy Christ! That's amazing. I don't know if I am shocked or awed or
> both. The ramifications of this software in our personal and private and
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>> 2007), now Photosynth is one step closer to rulez all our photos... At
>> http://geekvideo.blogspot.com/2007/06/photosynth-seadragon-all-your-photos.html

wonder if they are paying royalties on all that intellectual property they
are using???
MS sure want their royalties for music, movies, etc
they are not very sharing in reverse of their stuff
will they ask our permission to "bot search" all our web shots?

the software is mind boggling
and very incredible
I am sure we will all have fun using it
BUT it is very big brother

Having software to eliminate having to tag images with words will be useful
I was wondering if it will be any use on portrait pictures
or maybe it will do face recognition?
and reconstruct us humans from bits of photos too??
o so weird

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=(8) - 12 Jun 2007 23:52 GMT

Copyright issues aside. Personally I was impressed enough that if they used
any of my images the wow factor they created with that was enough I would
let it slide. Frankly, I haven't been that impressed in quite sometime. What
most companies call ground breaking lately has been more of a yawn that wow.
Kind of like the Shock and Awe of the Iraq war. Well, I guess it was shock
and awe. Socked it was so poorly planed and awed that it still isn't any
better planned.

Anyways it will be interesting to see what if anything this technology comes
to for the consumer. If it going to be limited to only services like
Flicker, Google, etc. then I am much less impressed. However, if Microsoft
puts out software for the rest of us that lets us use this on our computers
and our own web sites then I will be even more wowed.

=(8)

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Aaron - 13 Jun 2007 15:21 GMT

And lo, =(8) <nospam@nospam.com> emerged from the ether
and spake thus:

> Copyright issues aside. Personally I was impressed enough that if they used
> any of my images the wow factor they created with that was enough I would
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>
>=(8)

Just remember that every time you give up a right in the name of wow
factor, security, or anything else, you'll be hard pressed to ever get
it back.

That said, I think Microsoft will be cognizant of copyright issues.
Certainly Flickr provides internal support for copyright and if
PhotoSynth uses their API, that data will be right there. As for
scraping the web... Isn't that the risk you take by placing any image
on the web? Another reason to either watermark or stop caring or both.

You can't have exposure without risking... You know, exposure. If you
only want people to look, have gallery shows and nothing else. It's
not unheard of. Or post ridiculously small images. Or my least
favorite option, plaster them with watermarks like you're a stock
agency.

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http://www.fisheyegallery.com
http://www.singleservingphoto.com

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=(8) - 13 Jun 2007 15:47 GMT

> And lo, =(8) <nospam@nospam.com> emerged from the ether
> and spake thus:
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> favorite option, plaster them with watermarks like you're a stock
> agency.

You are of course correct as the Bush administration has proven. You give
the a rights inch and they go and take a mile behind your back. However, in
this case in the computer world these days especially there really is so
little that wows that I don't think we are in much danger. Nothing Apple,
Intel, AMD, Adobe or any other company has done for the last 10 years has
been wow. Sure the updates are fine, but not oh my god wow type things. If
this technology from MS is ever released for the consumer it would be a wow
type thing on a major scale. If it is released for use by Google, and
companies like that then not so much.

=(8)

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Aaron - 13 Jun 2007 17:28 GMT

And lo, =(8) <nospam@nospam.com> emerged from the ether
and spake thus:

>> And lo, =(8) <nospam@nospam.com> emerged from the ether
>> and spake thus:
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> type thing on a major scale. If it is released for use by Google, and
> companies like that then not so much.

I thought that OS X was "wow."

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http://www.fisheyegallery.com
http://www.singleservingphoto.com

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No One - 11 Jun 2007 12:25 GMT

> A presentation at the TED2007 (Technology, Entertainment, Design)
> Conference demoing integration with Seadragon (acquired by M$ in Feb
> 2007), now Photosynth is one step closer to rulez all our photos... At
> http://geekvideo.blogspot.com/2007/06/photosynth-seadragon-all-your-photos.html

My god, can that guy slow down a bit? His voice sounds like IT is
computer generated.

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Dave - 11 Jun 2007 22:48 GMT

>Holy Christ!
>
>My god,

Idiots - who do you think you are talking to:-(

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Noah Stevens - 26 Jun 2007 20:21 GMT

Dear Dave,

I am sorry if I gave offense with my opening, and I am not trolling for a
flame war or anything, but calling anyone an idiot offhand is not
appropriate or courteous, I think. I will be wary of pseudoreligious
exclamations in the future. Thanks for your forbearance and understanding
in these matters, and for the lively discussion you brought to the group. I
hope to hear from you in the future and will try to keep from offending you
or others down the road.

Yours,

Noah

>>Holy Christ!
>>
>>My god,
>
> Idiots - who do you think you are talking to:-(

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Dave - 26 Jun 2007 22:36 GMT

>Dear Dave,
>
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>> Idiots - who do you think you are talking to:-(

Hi Noah,

Can it ever be appropriate or courteous to address human beings and
use Names like you did? As if you are talking to the Lord?
Can you insist on courtesy in a reply to your first letter?

It is obvious that you do understand and I really appreciate your
attitude to it. It is only that I find it difficult to see how
somebody that can write a friendly and intelligent letter like you
posted here, could have written the first one:-)

Thanks for saying you will be wary... I am sure we can be friends.
I contribute very little to this group and absorb much more from it
and hope to see you here more often. You will find it valluable.

Thanks for understanding.

Dave

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John McWilliams - 27 Jun 2007 00:31 GMT

>> Dear Dave,
>>
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>
> Dave

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