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Nospam - 28 May 2007 19:12 GMT
digital photography software

I currently use Photoshop elements 2.0

and was considering upgrading to version 5.0

A) I'm not sure if the extras I will get in
version 5.0 are worth upgrading

B) should I get Adobe Lightroom as well or instead of.

there seems so many products to choose from.

any thoughts suggestions are most welcome.

I am only a home user who tidies up my photos.

thanks

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Stan Beck - 28 May 2007 19:44 GMT
Unless you process hundreds to thousands of images, you will probably be a
lot happier with the latest version of Elements - it offers a lot of tools.

I use Photoshop CS2, because I do more than just work on photos, although
that is the most of it.  I will upgrade to CS3 instead of switching to
Lightroom (just my preference).

Elements - less than $100

Lightroom - $199 intro price, soon to be $299

Photoshop - $650

My suggestion would be to go with Elements, and put the difference toward a
good lens, flash, tripod, etc.

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www.kevinkienlein.com - 29 May 2007 06:38 GMT
Don't get elements 4, very user-UNFRIENDLY>>>, maybe 5 is better,  I have
Vs. 2 and it is good, and just got CS3, haven't learned how to use it
yet..... kk

> Unless you process hundreds to thousands of images, you will probably be a
> lot happier with the latest version of Elements - it offers a lot of
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ray - 29 May 2007 00:32 GMT
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The topic would more appropriately be 'photoshop' or 'photoshop digital
photography software' - there are other options besides adobe.
Colin_D - 29 May 2007 01:48 GMT
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Elements version above 3 won't run on less than Windows XP. If perchance
you have Win 2000 or earlier, the best you can do us version 3.

Colin D.

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Rob Morley - 29 May 2007 02:44 GMT
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> any thoughts suggestions are most welcome.

The Gimp - it's free, so you might as well try it.

http://www.gimp.org/

http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
www.kevinkienlein.com - 29 May 2007 06:55 GMT
I have looked at this program (GIMP) before, but I don't get how you are
supposed to install it.

On the second link you provide it says, "If this is the first time you're
installing The GIMP, you will also need GTK+ 2 Runtime Environment below. ",
however it does not have any instructions on what installs first, second, do
you put it all in a folder, etc...

for non-programmers like myself it is not very user intuitive to install; so
up to now have left it alone. They need more dummy 1,2,3 instructions
regarding their program... Is anyone else as mystified as I? thanks kk

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> http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
Koekje - 29 May 2007 08:25 GMT
www.kevinkienlein.com enlightened us with:
> On the second link you provide it says, "If this is the first time
> you're installing The GIMP, you will also need GTK+ 2 Runtime
> Environment below. ", however it does not have any instructions on
> what installs first, second, do you put it all in a folder, etc...

If you download both, you'll get two ZIPs that contain two .exe files.
Run the GTK+ one first, then the GIMP one.

> for non-programmers like myself it is not very user intuitive to install

It's not that difficult, really. Maybe you should use Linux instead -
then you can simply go to your package manager and say "install gimp".
Then it'll take care of itself, look for a suitable place to install,
and install GTK+ without even bothering you about it.

Koekje
Rob Morley - 29 May 2007 10:08 GMT
> www.kevinkienlein.com enlightened us with:
> > On the second link you provide it says, "If this is the first time
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> If you download both, you'll get two ZIPs that contain two .exe files.

The latest Gimp setup for Windows is just an EXE, not zipped.

> Run the GTK+ one first, then the GIMP one.
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> > for non-programmers like myself it is not very user intuitive to install
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> It's not that difficult, really. Maybe you should use Linux instead -

Xandros is really rather good for newbies these days - lots of people
seem to be raving about it.
www.kevinkienlein.com - 30 May 2007 08:19 GMT
will check it out... kk
>> www.kevinkienlein.com enlightened us with:
>> > On the second link you provide it says, "If this is the first time
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> Xandros is really rather good for newbies these days - lots of people
> seem to be raving about it.
www.kevinkienlein.com - 29 May 2007 10:09 GMT
thanks I will give it a try... kk

> www.kevinkienlein.com enlightened us with:
>> On the second link you provide it says, "If this is the first time
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> Koekje
jrblack10@gmail.com - 29 May 2007 19:08 GMT
If your going to go through the hassle of trying GIMP, you should also
try Paint.NET.  Also free, and more user friendly including
installation.

http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html

Paint.NET is free image editing and photo manipulation software
designed to be used on computers that run Windows. It supports layers,
unlimited undo, special effects, and a wide variety of useful and
powerful tools.
Rob Morley - 29 May 2007 19:59 GMT
In article <1180462127.765652.82370@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
jrblack10@gmail.com
jrblack10@gmail.com says...
> If your going to go through the hassle of trying GIMP, you should also
> try Paint.NET.  Also free, and more user friendly including
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> unlimited undo, special effects, and a wide variety of useful and
> powerful tools.

I nearly forgot to mention this:  http://photofiltre.free.fr/
www.kevinkienlein.com - 30 May 2007 08:23 GMT
sheesh, there are allot out there!!! kk
> In article <1180462127.765652.82370@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> jrblack10@gmail.com
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> I nearly forgot to mention this:  http://photofiltre.free.fr/
Nospam - 30 May 2007 19:34 GMT
Thanks for all the responses.

there are a lot of image editing packages out there.

I have downloaded trial versions and free version of the following.

I will use the all on the same group of images and get a 'feel' for each
one.

then I will pick the application or maybe two applications that best
suits my current needs.

they all do various things better than others.

thanks for all the help.

Still thinking of getting Photoshop Elements 5.0 - it looks nice in the
adobe web site, but I will see how the others work out.

Photoshop Elements 2.0
nice but no automatic red eye removal, takes 10 seconds to load!

OLYMPUS Master 2.02 (came with my camera)
very nice but limited, not found out how to adjust mid-tones yet. may
not be possible.

Photo Filtre

Paint Shop Pro XI

Picasa2

xnview

Fireworks 6.0

IrfanView

IDimager - Digital Image Manager

Paint.NET 3.08

Picture Window Pro 4

PhotoLine

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www.kevinkienlein.com - 30 May 2007 08:22 GMT
thanks, will see what it is like... kk
> If your going to go through the hassle of trying GIMP, you should also
> try Paint.NET.  Also free, and more user friendly including
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> unlimited undo, special effects, and a wide variety of useful and
> powerful tools.
Rob Morley - 29 May 2007 10:08 GMT
In article <1180418167.428298@netadmin1.interbaun.net>,
www.kevinkienlein.com
krash@junction.net says...
> I have looked at this program (GIMP) before, but I don't get how you are
> supposed to install it.
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> however it does not have any instructions on what installs first, second, do
> you put it all in a folder, etc...

Unzip the GTK setup and run it - it's a normal Windows setup program.
Then run the GIMP setup.  Just accept all the default settings for both
install routines.  When you first run GIMP it registers a load of
modules and sets up a couple of folders for plugins and a swapfile, then
you're ready to go.
www.kevinkienlein.com - 30 May 2007 08:19 GMT
great thanks,, kk
> In article <1180418167.428298@netadmin1.interbaun.net>,
> www.kevinkienlein.com
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> modules and sets up a couple of folders for plugins and a swapfile, then
> you're ready to go.
Joe - 30 May 2007 21:42 GMT
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> http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html

I notice that version 2.3.17 has a bug, so which version might be best to
download?

Joe.
Floyd L. Davidson - 31 May 2007 01:03 GMT
>> http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
>
>I notice that version 2.3.17 has a bug, so which version might be best to
>download?

Version 2.3 is the development code.  It probably has a
*lot* of bugs!

The URL, though I didn't check it, suggests that it will
lead you to the latest stable release, which is version
2.2.

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