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Girish Kulkarni - 27 May 2007 22:10 GMT
Hi,

I'm looking for hints on memory management while out backpacking with
a digital camera.

I own a Sony DSC-P73 with 256MB memory and plan to carry it away for
fifteen days. I would not be having a computer to transfer images but
would like to shoot as much as possible. How can I get more memory
without buying a new card? (Can I rent cards from anywhere in India?
An ipod would be available; can that be used? Any other solutions?)

Thanks.

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Girish Kulkarni,
Allahabad, India.
the_niner_nation - 27 May 2007 22:52 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Girish Kulkarni,
> Allahabad, India.

Girish..without sounding too harsh, let me tell you that 256 Mb no matter
how conservative you are with photo quality settings simply is NOT ENOUGH
memory!!!

Are you backpacking in a rural, country type environment?

You could ask a local store etc to burn your photos onto a CD rom...as far
as I am aware, no one in India was offering digital memory on a hire basis
( I recently returned from a trip to India).

An apple ipod can download images froma  digital camera onto the ipod by
means of a camera adaptor, but you need a colour / photo ipod.

My advice to you is to either borrow some more memory cards, or go buy some
more..you really can't do much with 256MB unless you only plan on shooting a
few phoots a day!!

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Rudy Lacchin - 27 May 2007 22:57 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> without buying a new card? (Can I rent cards from anywhere in India?
> An ipod would be available; can that be used? Any other solutions?)

Don't risk your valuable images on a card of unknown provenance and
reliability.  A couple of decent quality 1Gb or even 4Gb cards cost very
little these days compared to the cost of a holiday, plus they'll be yours
to keep afterwards.

Don't be such a tightwad!

R.
ASAAR - 28 May 2007 00:00 GMT
>> I own a Sony DSC-P73 with 256MB memory and plan to carry it away for
>> fifteen days. I would not be having a computer to transfer images but
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> little these days compared to the cost of a holiday, plus they'll be yours
> to keep afterwards.

 The DSC-P73 is fairly old, having been introduced Feb. 04.  I
don't know much about Sony's memory but I know that they've
introduced many different types of Memory Sticks and hasn't gone to
any great trouble to make new devices compatible with older models.
According to DPReview the DSC-P73 uses "Memory Stick / Pro".  Many
cameras sold in 2005 couldn't access more than 500MB, so the chance
of the P73 being able to use 1GB cards is questionable.  It might.
But I'd be very surprised if 4GB cards could be used, if there are
any that size that would work in the P73.  Normally in a case such
as this I'd recommend replacing the camera with a better, new model,
but as card prices have dropped considerably, it might be worth
buying a handful of cheap cards for the P73.

 All of DPReview's tests of Sony's models similar to the P73 were
done using 128MB cards.  The more recent DSC-H1 (2005) was tested
with a 512MB Memory Stick Pro, so perhaps the P73 can use those.
Around here 512MB cards cost little more than the price of a fast
food meal.
Ed Mullikin - 28 May 2007 01:54 GMT
I did two things in that regard while in Jaipur, India a few years ago; 1) I
bought a new Memory Stick, which was OK, and 2) I had a shop transfer the
Memory Sticks that I had full onto a CD.  When I got back to the USA and
started to work with the CD my antivirus program went nuts.  However, it
successfully quarantined the virus so my shots were not destroyed.  I guess
that I agree with one of the postings which said don't be so cheap with
memory costing as little as it does these days.   256 mb is practically
nothing.

>>> I own a Sony DSC-P73 with 256MB memory and plan to carry it away for
>>> fifteen days. I would not be having a computer to transfer images but
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Around here 512MB cards cost little more than the price of a fast
> food meal.
Mike Russell - 28 May 2007 06:42 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> without buying a new card? (Can I rent cards from anywhere in India?
> An ipod would be available; can that be used? Any other solutions?)

More than likely you can have your images copied to CD by a photo store, or
any small outfit that has a PC and card reader.  I've seen places that do
this in several countries in SE Asia, and I imagine the same is true of
India even in the smaller cities and villages where people have computers.

Aside from having CD's written, you can fit considerably more images on your
card by lowering the jpeg quality from Fine to Standard and even more so by
lowering the resolution of the image.  When possible, keep the resolution,
and reduce the quality to save space.  Shoot all the way down to VGA 640x480
for certain images where all you want is something to trigger my memory.

As others have mentioned, a larger memory card is not expensive, and is
probably your best alternative.  A 1 gig Memory Stick Pro for your camera is
about 25 US dollars at Amazon. Hopefully you can find a similar price in
your country.  1 gig will probably hold enough highest quality images for
the entire trip.
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Sachin Garg - 28 May 2007 06:45 GMT
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> without buying a new card? (Can I rent cards from anywhere in India?
> An ipod would be available; can that be used? Any other solutions?)

If you are going to a popular tourist place (or a big city) , you
could rent cameras here or buy memory cards. I haven't heard about
rented cards. If its a not-so-popular place you might not find memory
cards and can forget about rented stuff.

And like others have mentioned you could get CDs burned from any
internet-cafe etc even have them transfer your stuff to your ipod (but
these are exactly the kind of places which have PCs full of spywares,
and I won't blame the cafe owners for this ;-)

Buying some more cards seems to be the easiest way out.

Sachin Garg [India]
www.sachingarg.com | www.c10n.info

ps. Before you plug you camera into a wall socket for charging, check
its power rating (110v vs 220v issues).
Girish Kulkarni - 28 May 2007 10:26 GMT
> I'm looking for hints on memory management while out backpacking with
> a digital camera.

Thanks for all your replies. I guess the most suitable solutions for
me is either buying new cards or getting stuff transfered to a CD-ROM.
I wanted to avoid new cards because I'm thinking of switching to a
Canon soon (the Memory Stick Pro won't work there). Thanks anyway.

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Girish Kulkarni,
Allahabad, India.
C J Campbell - 28 May 2007 13:45 GMT
>> I'm looking for hints on memory management while out backpacking with
>> a digital camera.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I wanted to avoid new cards because I'm thinking of switching to a
> Canon soon (the Memory Stick Pro won't work there). Thanks anyway.

Truly. There are solutions like the Epson P2000, but they are more
expensive than memory cards.

The comment about PCs at Internet cafes being full of spyware was
valid. Viruses, too. It was a constant problem for our missionaries in
the Philippines. Some of these viruses can render a card unusable,
although this is unlikely. The way I dealt with it is when the
missionary brought his card into the office I would run a virus scan on
it, remove the offending files, and then burn his CDs for him. When you
get back from your trip you would want to run a virus scan on your card
before you do anything else with it. Most viruses don't hide themselves
very well, so you could simply look for any files that are not picture
files on the card. You would want view hidden files and system files
checked. Or just reformat the card using a complete or long format. The
chief effect of viruses on the card is that they take up space, but
they can transmit themselves to a PC if you try to open them or
something like that. You would also want to check your CDs for viruses
and spyware.

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Rob Morley - 28 May 2007 15:49 GMT
In article <1180344374.410497.205830@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Girish Kulkarni
geeree@gmail.com says...
> > I'm looking for hints on memory management while out backpacking with
> > a digital camera.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I wanted to avoid new cards because I'm thinking of switching to a
> Canon soon (the Memory Stick Pro won't work there). Thanks anyway.

Why not buy some memory sticks on eBay, and sell them when you come
back?
the_niner_nation - 28 May 2007 16:45 GMT
> In article <1180344374.410497.205830@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Girish Kulkarni
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Why not buy some memory sticks on eBay, and sell them when you come
> back?

If you do buy memory from ebay, make sure it's a reputable seller...ebay is
riddled with counterfiet memory chips, especiually sony ones.

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Theo Markettos - 29 May 2007 10:29 GMT
> Thanks for all your replies. I guess the most suitable solutions for
> me is either buying new cards or getting stuff transfered to a CD-ROM.
> I wanted to avoid new cards because I'm thinking of switching to a
> Canon soon (the Memory Stick Pro won't work there). Thanks anyway.

How about carrying a cheap card reader around with you?  And maybe a few USB
flash sticks?  That way you can copy stuff onto the USB sticks wherever
there's a computer with USB.  It might be good to carry around the driver
CDs, in case you get stuck somewhere that only has a Windows 98 machine - I
noticed in an African capital that everyone was about 3 versions of Windows
behind Microsoft.

Or there are those little boxes where you plug in a flash card and it'll
copy to a hard drive automatically.  But they're probably more expensive.

Theo
Girish Kulkarni - 29 May 2007 21:49 GMT
The idea of buying and reselling cards on ebay is interesting. (But
pretty inefficient, with chances of ending up with bad cards?)

On May 29, 2:29 pm, Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
wrote:
> How about carrying a cheap card reader around with you?  And maybe a few USB
> flash sticks?  That way you can copy stuff onto the USB sticks wherever
> there's a computer with USB.  It might be good to carry around the driver
> CDs, in case you get stuck somewhere that only has a Windows 98 machine - I
> noticed in an African capital that everyone was about 3 versions of Windows
> behind Microsoft.

Yes, I considered USB sticks, ipods, MP3 players, ...

> Or there are those little boxes where you plug in a flash card and it'll
> copy to a hard drive automatically.  But they're probably more expensive.

Haven't heard much of this. Is there any reliable brand that produces
it? I'll be interested for future use if not for now.

Girish
Joan - 28 May 2007 11:35 GMT
How will you power the camera?

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: Hi,
:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
: Girish Kulkarni,
: Allahabad, India.
Girish Kulkarni - 28 May 2007 15:45 GMT
> How will you power the camera?

Well, I've got enought batteries! Also, charging them won't be a
problem. I'll have electricity. What I won't have is memory.

Girish
 
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