You may have seen my previous inquiry regarding projecting a movie through
achromatic lenses.
I've run into a snag. When I put the achromats together in the path of the
projected image and bounce it off a mirror, I see an image that fits nicely
within the boundaries of the lens diameter. Looks sharp, clear.
However, I find that when I align my camcorder at about the same place my
eyes were, it won't bring the image into focus even if the zoom on the cam
is pulled all the way back - i.e. the focus point is outside the range of
the cam's ability to focus unless I move the camera way back, but doing this
yields a very small image in relation to the field of view of the camcorder.
Fiddling with the focus on the projector doesn't help other than making it
less out of focus if it's a point where the image looks sharp to my unaided
eye.
I find that if I extend the distance between the projector and the
reflecting mirror without moving the achromats, it's getting closer to
focused, but don't have enough room where it is to move it farther back, so
I plan to set up all the components where I have more room to see how far
apart they need to be to get a sharp focus at the size I need. The distance
the achromats are from each other seems to have a bearing as well. Closer
together seems better.
Obviously some issues at work here that I'm unfamiliar with. Didn't have
this problem when projecting through a condenser lens - I could zoom the
image larger or smaller with the projector and easily find a focus point no
matter the size of the image. Didn't even have to be particularly picky
about how far the condenser was from the projector. I thought if the image
looked focused to my eye, the cam would also see it the same way since I'd
never encountered a situation where it wouldn't. But this is clearly not
universally true.
Another issue that no doubt is related to this. The FL on these lenses is
supposed to be 235mm. What exactly does that mean? I thought maybe this was
the distance at which you would see a focused image but I can look through
either or both lenses and see in focus images of things at varying
distances. Someone mentioned that if I use two lenses, I can cut the FL in
half. If so, to do this, how far do they need to be from each other?
All input is appreciated.
Dave Schaack - 28 Nov 2006 14:50 GMT
> I've run into a snag. When I put the achromats together in the path of the
> projected image and bounce it off a mirror, I see an image that fits
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> unaided
> eye.
It seems clear that the achromats are acting to reproject the image to a
point behind the camera. You are probably farsighted, and can focus on this
image, whereas for the camera, this image is "beyond infinity".
> The distance the achromats are from each other seems to have a bearing as
> well. Closer
> together seems better.
Yes, that would make sense also. If what I stated above is true, you have
the projector too close to the achromats. In other words, the focal length
of the combination of the achromats is too long for your arrangement.
Moving the achromats closer together will decrease the focal length of the
combination.
> Obviously some issues at work here that I'm unfamiliar with. Didn't have
> this problem when projecting through a condenser lens - I could zoom the
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> looked focused to my eye, the cam would also see it the same way since I'd
> never encountered a situation where it wouldn't.
I think that you were very lucky before and that your luck has now run out.
> Another issue that no doubt is related to this. The FL on these lenses is
> supposed to be 235mm. What exactly does that mean?
Crudely, the focal length is the distance from a lens at which the image of
an object at infinity is formed. A lens will form an image of an object at
any distance, but the location of the image depends on the distance of the
object as well as the focal length of the lens.
Dave Schaack - 28 Nov 2006 14:54 GMT
> Someone mentioned that if I use two lenses, I can cut the FL in
> half. If so, to do this, how far do they need to be from each other?
That is an approximation. The focal length of a combination of positive
focal length lenses that are placed close together is smaller than the focal
length of either individual lens. If the lenses have the same focal length
and are placed in contact, the focal length of the combination will be only
a little larger than half the focal length of the individual lenses.