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When did color photography become accessible to the average person?

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Gary Edstrom - 26 Sep 2006 22:02 GMT
When did color photography become accessible to the average person?

I know that color photography has been around for 100 years or so, but
it was well beyond the capability of the average person in the early
years.

I have been digitizing some of my father's old slides and just started
to wonder about it.  The oldest slides in his collection are some
Kodachrome slides from 1951.  I know that Kodachrome had been around
for a while before that, however.  The 55 year old Kodachrome slides
are just as vivid as they day they were shot.  However, he also shot
some "Ansco" film on occasion.  All of them are faded and color
shifted.  Some are beyond the point of any kind of recovery.

I have seen a few older color negatives in my mother's collection, but
they are pretty useless.  The image is almost gone.

Thanks, Gary
UC - 26 Sep 2006 22:10 GMT
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With Kodachrome, in 1936. Also in Germany, around the same time, color
film was introduced by Agfa.
Murray - 27 Sep 2006 08:27 GMT
During WWII professionals had some colour film
but it was rare. 'The average person' didn't get
the stuff until abt. the time you mention.
My own Kodachromes were 1953/4 because the price
included processing. OK until you ruined a film
somehow and tried to claim the processing fee back!

I still have my original slides - must scan them sometime.

Murray

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Marvin - 27 Sep 2006 17:26 GMT
> During WWII professionals had some colour film
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> I still have my original slides - must scan them sometime.

I recently scanned several dozen slides of that vintage. I
don't know if they were Kodachrome or Ektachrome. They were
all on the same metal slide file.  Some had faded to the
point where only red was visible, but others are still fine.
 I suspect the difference is how they were developed.  The
scanner (Epson 3490) software included fade restoration, and
with some I bypassed that software and used Paint Shop Pro
X's fade restore function.  The results were better than I
expected, but not perfect by any means.  I prefer PSP, but
only because I have some control over the result and can go
back to the original scan if I want.  But having the scanner
do the restoration is faster.
Murray - 28 Sep 2006 13:57 GMT
Ouch! I better take another looksee. :-(
They are in a steel box but no special precautions.
The climate is mild except in summer. 27.5 deg south.

Murray

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> control over the result and can go back to the original scan if I want.  
> But having the scanner do the restoration is faster.
dadiOH - 27 Sep 2006 13:57 GMT
> When did color photography become accessible to the average person?

True that Kodachrome was available mid-30s but the "average" person
didn't use it for two reasons; firstly, it is reversal; secondly, it
was way too slow (ASA 10) for the unskilled.

Color negative film was commonly available in the late 40s.  Faster
too...fast enough to use in box brownies.

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UC - 27 Sep 2006 14:59 GMT
> > When did color photography become accessible to the average person?
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> True that Kodachrome was available mid-30s but the "average" person
> didn't use it for two reasons; firstly, it is reversal; secondly, it
> was way too slow (ASA 10) for the unskilled.

It was popular from the start among miniature camera users.

> Color negative film was commonly available in the late 40s.  Faster
> too...fast enough to use in box brownies.
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> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Robert Hirschel - 27 Sep 2006 17:41 GMT
Good day all,
I think that Kodachrome could not be processed in any lab but Kodak. That
was a problem: at best you could not expect the photos to be back in less
than a few days.
And there were such labs in the States only.
I have used myself the Lumière process (Autochrome) and you can see the
result in old copies (till 1935 Ibelieve) of the National Geographic
Magazine.
The colors were very nice, completely different from the Kodachrome.
You could process the film in an amateur lab, and the Lumière manual 1931
gave very nice instructions (to dry a plate you had first to modify a
turntable, put the plate in the middle, so that the water would gently drip
away..).
There was a film on the same principle. The first commercial plates were
sold in 1905, and picctures of the first world war have been recently
published (although after a photoshop conversion! And it was just
propaganda.
The german had a similar film, and the British used the Dufaycolor, although
they got into that business just in time to be driven out by Kodachrome,
obviously vastly superior.
yours
(all these processes were reversal)
robert
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Kevin L. Kitchens - 27 Sep 2006 17:48 GMT
A great book featuring the beginning of color photography...

Bound for Glory: America in Color 1939-43 (Hardcover)
by Paul Hendrickson (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0810943484/ref=cm_rv_thx_view/102-
2359820-2427302?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance


Some of the first color photographs and some of the only ones from WW2
homefront.

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Michael Weinstein - 30 Sep 2006 05:39 GMT
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Kodak's website will help you. Kodachrome was invented around 1935 and
by 1936 was available for home movies and home slides. Kodacolor came
out in 1942. Ansco was, IMHO, the worse color slide film ever invented.
The fading is significant, but they never would have  been really good
even when new. Kodachrome is a technology unto itself and it's sad that
it is going to disappear in a few years, due to lack of interest.
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