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kreplech@gmail.com - 31 Aug 2006 00:49 GMT
so, everything is coming along nicely with my brand new film camera...
except the pictures. but alas! i'll not lose faith. i would like;
however, some advice regarding development. what's the most
cost-effective method of having film developed - not doing it myself,
mind you.

also, thanks for all the great advice and conversation to date - this
is a good group - despite the requisite bickering about film vs.
digital.
Cisco Kid - 31 Aug 2006 16:07 GMT
>  what's the most
> cost-effective method of having film developed

There's no options really - it costs what it costs - but I NEVER let
cheesy places like CVS or Walgreens touch my film - I pay extra for a
professional store to develop and handle my pics.
Rob Novak - 31 Aug 2006 17:02 GMT
>so, everything is coming along nicely with my brand new film camera...
>except the pictures. but alas! i'll not lose faith. i would like;
>however, some advice regarding development. what's the most
>cost-effective method of having film developed - not doing it myself,
>mind you.

Errr... doing it yourself.

Local lab, B&W dev only (no prints): $5/roll 135/36 or 120 rollfilm.

Me: about 40 cents a roll for chemistry, and that's using convenient
liquid concentrates in lieu of powdered devlopers.

It's not that hard, takes a minimum of equipment, and with a changing
bag and a daylight tank, you can do it on your kitchen counter.

If you've got a scanner, you can then take the film stock images into
a digital workflow and print that way.  Or, just get only the frames
you want printed at the lab.
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kreplech@gmail.com - 31 Aug 2006 17:47 GMT
Rob,

Thanks! This is exactly the sort of thing I'll be looking into soon!

> >so, everything is coming along nicely with my brand new film camera...
> >except the pictures. but alas! i'll not lose faith. i would like;
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> Central Maryland Photographer's Guild - http://www.cmpg.org
> Strange, Geometrical Hinges - http://sgh.rnovak.net
Smed - 31 Aug 2006 17:59 GMT
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> so, everything is coming along nicely with my brand new film camera...
> except the pictures. but alas! i'll not lose faith. i would like;
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> is a good group - despite the requisite bickering about film vs.
> digital.

i took a photography class in high school back in '89 (holy smokes.. it
doesn't seem THAT long ago!)... one of the things they taught us was film
development... it was great!... granted, it was just black and white but it
was something i remember looking forward to every day... it really wasn't as
hard as i feared.. i imagine color developing is more in depth, but thats
half the fun...

if i owned a camera that shot film, i would definitely look into creating a
home lab...
kreplech@gmail.com - 31 Aug 2006 18:46 GMT
i am going to look into it soon. i'd like to take a class as well, but
local university extension program=$400. rediculous. anyway, i guess
the main reason why i posted is that somebody gave me the idea that you
can have film developed only without prints being made - and have the
developed shots burned to CD - all this for less than having the prints
made (supposedly) - just trying to gauge how popular this option is -
if at all.

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> > so, everything is coming along nicely with my brand new film camera...
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> if i owned a camera that shot film, i would definitely look into creating a
> home lab...
Cisco Kid - 31 Aug 2006 20:25 GMT
> i am going to look into it soon. i'd like to take a class as well, but
> local university extension program=$400. rediculous. anyway, i guess
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> made (supposedly) - just trying to gauge how popular this option is -
> if at all.

I'm confused - I thought in your original post you mentioned that you
don't want to do it yourself.

Anyway, forgot about the Develope only - route - I bought a Dimage 35mm
film scanner - it scans both negs and slides - but it can to time
consuming, especially cleaning the dust off the scanned images in
photoshop - for that reason it would be better to shool slide and use a
loupe to decide which images are worthy enought to go through scanning

The scanner was $200 if I remember correctly. A professional D+P store
will probably charge at least $10 for the prints - so 20 rolls of film
scanner rather than printed and the scanner pays for itself.
Rob Novak - 31 Aug 2006 19:21 GMT
>hard as i feared.. i imagine color developing is more in depth, but thats
>half the fun...

C-41 is as easy as B&W, so long as you have a tempering bath to hold
the chemistry at 38C for the duration of the developing step.  A
washtub will do.

Tetental's C-41 Rapid chemistry is really easy - Preheat dry tank in
tempering path for 5:00.  Color dev @ 38C +- 1/3 degree C  for 3:15.
Blix for 4:00 @ 38C +- 1C.  Continuous wash for 5:00.

Kodak Flexicolor's only slight more complex, because the bleach and
fixer are separate baths.

E-6 can be a complex beast if you're using the 6-bath (1st dev, rinse,
reversal, color dev, pre-bleach, bleach, fixer) process, which I
recommend.  I wouldn't try it using a non-thermostatically controlled
bath and hand agitation, myself.  The rapid 3-bath processes (1st dev,
color dev/reversal, blix) can be done similar to C-41, but they don't
produce optimal results.
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