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Deke - 28 May 2006 20:06 GMT
Ok, So after my last post I finally got around to going out in the
field for some photography.  However, I have an issue with balance now.
The first photo (http://dietrichduke.com/photos/IMG_6499.jpg) the
foreground is in focus and nice and bright, however the background
(sky) is white like it was over exposed.  The second photo (same
subject) the foreground is dark and the sky is a nice natural blue
(http://dietrichduke.com/photos/IMG_6507.jpg).

What should I do to get a perfect balance here?  Every image between
the first and the last (all 8) is of the same subject and the only one
with a resemblance of good balance is this one:
http://dietrichduke.com/photos/IMG_6506.jpg.

Thanks again

Deke
Rudy Benner - 28 May 2006 21:31 GMT
> Ok, So after my last post I finally got around to going out in the
> field for some photography.  However, I have an issue with balance now.
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>
> Deke

Seems to me you are already doing what needs to be done, bracketing your
shots.

Since your Canon Rebel supports raw mode, you might consider using that
instead of jpeg (assuming that you are not already doing so).
Deke - 28 May 2006 21:41 GMT
Braketing my shots?

SO would going raw fix the sky problem?
Rudy Benner - 28 May 2006 22:10 GMT
> Braketing my shots?
>
> SO would going raw fix the sky problem?

What sky problem?
dj_nme - 29 May 2006 01:37 GMT
> Braketing my shots?
>
> SO would going raw fix the sky problem?

Bracketing shots is to take a series of pictures of the same scene at
difference exposure values to either get the one good exposure or to
capture all of the tonal values to be combined later in an image editor.
RAW could help because it is recorded at a a higher bit-depth (12 bits
per channel) than jpeg (8 bits per channel).
There is probably all the detail needed in the darker image, if it was
taken in RAW, when it could be converted and the shadows brought up in
lightness in the RAW converter you use before saving as a jpeg.
You might also try upping the gamma in the second image (using your
image editor), it would also bring out detail in the shadows.
kszakonyi@hotmail.com - 29 May 2006 05:11 GMT
The scene has a very wide latitude of exposure.   I got better results
bracketing with wide latitude exposure shots with film than I do with
my D10, but haven't shot 35mm film since I got my D10.    It looks like
you did some bracketing since you have over-exposure and under exposure
and one in the middle.   IMG_6499 was overexposed even in some of the
darker areas, and that detail is gone.   IMG_6507 seems to have some
detail in the shadows, and you could probably play with the levels in
your image editor and get it to be acceptable.   In this case, the
middle level adjustment probably will be the most help.  If you have
Photoshop elements, find the level adjustment and just drag the middle
arrow a bit, and see what it does.   The things I would try are:   1.
Pick a different time of day when the sun isn't so bright in the sky
and the contrast between the bright and dark areas of the picture will
be less intense.    2.  If the sun is really bright, try to eliminate
the rocks if possible since they seem to be really bright and you can
get some detail in the shadows and the sky remains a bit blue, but the
rocks start getting really bright when you do.    3.  Take a shot at
the exposure that the camera recommends and then adjust your exposure
compensation by the smallest amount that the camera will let you change
it, and take several photos in each direction (under-exposing and
over-exposing), adjusting the exposure compensation one notch for each
photo.  It looks like you did this to some degree.  In this case you
probably want to be sure you are in an aperature priority mode, so it
remains constant and change your shutter speed.  4.  A polarizer might
help with the reflections in the water and perhaps with the rocks a bit
too since they are getting a lot of reflected light.   5.  Try shooting
in Raw mode, it might help a bit too.
Paul Furman - 29 May 2006 18:43 GMT
> Ok, So after my last post I finally got around to going out in the
> field for some photography.  However, I have an issue with balance now.
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> with a resemblance of good balance is this one:
> http://dietrichduke.com/photos/IMG_6506.jpg.

Here you go:
http://www.edgehill.net/temp/IMG_6499+6506.jpg
2 minutes in photoshop merging with a broad soft brush.

A graduated neutral density filter would do something similar also.

RAW will help, you might need to do two conversions & merge them.

Another thing that helps is turning down the contrast for your in-camera
jpeg creation.
Deke - 30 May 2006 16:59 GMT
Ok.  Ill try out everyones tips here.  I thank you all again!  Time to
hunt down the photoshop  book to figure out merging ;)

Can the Digital Rebel turn contrast down ?
 
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