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Unspam - 25 Apr 2006 16:01 GMT
Why are linear images so dark and what are they for anyway?
Paul Furman - 25 Apr 2006 16:42 GMT
> Why are linear images so dark and what are they for anyway?

Native camera data is linear but our eyes see things differently.
Luminous Landscape has a nice page on 'expose right' which explains this
clearly. If you want to be very technical about making adjustments, like
in scientific or astrophotography it can be cleaner to work with the
original linear data rather than stretching it all up & introducing
rounding errors and clipping and exceeding the bit depth of the
software. I only have a vague understanding.
Scott W - 25 Apr 2006 17:03 GMT
> Why are linear images so dark and what are they for anyway?

A linear image is one where double the pixel value doubles the light
level.

Your monitor is set up for a non-linear space, when you put a linear
image on it the mid tones end up much darker then in reality.

If you want the unprocessed output from a scanner it will be a linear
image.

Scott
Rooty - 26 Apr 2006 07:01 GMT
I have a Visioneer OneTouch 9020 USB Scanner and transparency adapter
Still in box as I have been unwell
Reading about stuff priar to getting it out of the box and using it
I have my CanonT90 in the fix it repair shop the shutter was stuck not
in use for long time I hope that was the only reason will ring them
later to see how they got on
I bought 2 for 1 cameras to keep me going yesterday
Rooty
Unspam - 26 Apr 2006 11:56 GMT
> I have a Visioneer OneTouch 9020 USB Scanner and transparency adapter
> Still in box as I have been unwell
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> I bought 2 for 1 cameras to keep me going yesterday
> Rooty

How exactly does that information relate to the subject?
Unspam - 26 Apr 2006 11:58 GMT
>> Why are linear images so dark and what are they for anyway?
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> Scott

But how is it useful to a real world photographer? I have tried opening a
linear image and lightening it but it looks lousy.
Scott W - 26 Apr 2006 16:14 GMT
> >> Why are linear images so dark and what are they for anyway?
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> But how is it useful to a real world photographer? I have tried opening a
> linear image and lightening it but it looks lousy.

With the right use of curves you can get it to look right.
The linear image it pretty much going to be the raw image off the
scanner.  There are any number of reasons someone might want to work
with this kind of data but as an image it does not look so good.

Scott
 
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