Canon EOS 10D & Nikon D70

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Freebie - 26 Mar 2006 22:00 GMT

I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
impressed. I thought of selling my 10D and the 28-135mm IS USM Lens which I
use with the camera a lot, and buying the Nikon D70 and the kit lens which
comes with it. Before I decide what to do, I thought I'd ask you guys for an
opinion regarding this matter. Anyone have any interesting offerings by way
of which camera I should be using this summer?

Thanks.

Geo.

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John Fryatt - 26 Mar 2006 22:31 GMT

> I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
> recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
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> opinion regarding this matter. Anyone have any interesting offerings by way
> of which camera I should be using this summer?

What do you think you'd be gaining by switching to the Nikon D70?

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Freebie - 26 Mar 2006 22:55 GMT

>> I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
>> recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
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> What do you think you'd be gaining by switching to the Nikon D70?

One thing which "seemed" to be different was the D70's clarity of shot,
especially when looking at portraits as it seemed to show things like
skin-tones, eyes, and hair in a much more realistic manner, whereas, my 10D
shots looked somewhat "flat" by comparison. Maybe this is just 'my' eyes,
but I'd like to know if others have noticed this.

Geo.

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Stan Beck - 27 Mar 2006 00:28 GMT

I have a Nikon D200.

However, you already have a Canon lens. Why not look at the Canon 20D or
30D before you make up your mind. Try to see if a store will let you shoot
som images on to your card, and compare them to what you have. Both the
Canon and the Nikon systems are good.

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>>> I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
>>> recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
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> Geo.

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Paul Furman - 27 Mar 2006 00:38 GMT

>>>I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
>>>recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
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> shots looked somewhat "flat" by comparison. Maybe this is just 'my' eyes,
> but I'd like to know if others have noticed this.

Probably the thing to compare it to is a Canon 30D though that's a bit
more money. I got a D70 because the 20D seemed too expensive at the time
& the D70 had more features than the Rebel.

Can we assume your friend's D70 had the kit lens not something big &
fancy and you were shooting jpeg? Your 28-135 lens is not very wide (or
fast) so you might want to change that anyways as it doesn't seem you
have been collecting lenses anyways. You might even just buy a new lens
instead of a new camera, the lens effects sharpness & contrast & colors
or flatness more than the camera body does.

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John Fryatt - 27 Mar 2006 03:30 GMT

>>> I use the Canon EOS 10D and shoot mostly portraits and landscapes, but I
>>> recently had the chance to play with a friend's Nikon D70....'and was
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> shots looked somewhat "flat" by comparison. Maybe this is just 'my' eyes,
> but I'd like to know if others have noticed this.

I'm not expert at these things, but there are aseveral variables. Are
you, for instance comparing them by looking at the little LCD screens on
the back of each camera? Or have you uploaded shots from each to your
computer? Or even got prints made?
In the first case, the cameras might be configured differently, with the
Nikon having a brighter screen, which would make them appear different
but wouldn't affect the actual results.
If you've shot jpegs and uploaded them to the PC, then each camera will
have it's own process to create the jpegs from the raw data. One might
suit you better than the other, but adjustments can be made in the PC.
Or you can shoot in RAW mode and have even more control over the results
(at the expense of more time to do it).

What I'm getting at is that there are several variables which might make
Nikon images look different from Canon ones, other than any inherent
quality of the camera/lens, as such.

As Stan said, can you test the Nikon, and save a few shots onto one of
your own CF cards, then compare the two sets (Nikon and Canon) on your
PC? Ideally shoot raw on both and try to get the best from each, or if
you're not into RAW at least see what you can do anyway with an image prog.

My feeling is, honestly, that Canon and Nikon (and Pentax and ....) are
all decent systems, and you're really looking at pretty small
differences between them.

John

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bmoag - 27 Mar 2006 23:19 GMT

Its not the camera, its the photographer.
This is the answer to 99% of questions about which gear is better that are
posted on photography newsgroups.
Rather than buying a new camera learn to use the camera you have,
photography in general and image processing and printing.

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Stan Beck - 27 Mar 2006 23:41 GMT

Well, not necessarily the case with digital.

In film photography, the four main factors were the camera, the film, the
lens and the photographer - all contribute to the quality of the result.

With digital, the camera is also the film, so it plays a bigger role. This
doesn't, however, lessen the value of the lens and the photographer.

I just thought this was worth saying - not trying to start an argument.

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> Its not the camera, its the photographer.
> This is the answer to 99% of questions about which gear is better that are
> posted on photography newsgroups.
> Rather than buying a new camera learn to use the camera you have,
> photography in general and image processing and printing.

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