Hi,
I have lots of 35mm films to scan. IM looking for a 35 mm scanner but I
consider a flat scanner (or an all-in-one printer) that have a support for
35mm films.
What I would like to know is :
1)Is there any 35mm scanner that do a good job but that not too expensive
(around 200 $, except the Konica - Minolta DiMAGE Scan Dual IV) ?
2)Can I optain good results with a flat scanner or a all-in-one printer
(good results and save some time)? (minium resolution of 3200)
3)Anyone who use the Epson Stylus CX7800 (all-in-one printer)? How is the 35
mm film scanning ? (and the printing of photos?)
Thank you very much for your help.... I have undreds of films to scan but
not enough money to spend. I read many reviews but I cant make my mind
Thank you
Jonathan
tomm42 - 01 Feb 2006 20:15 GMT
> Hi,
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> Jonathan
The KM Scan Dual IV is about the best bang for the buck. With flat beds
the specs are often inflated and they give disappointing results
especially with small films. If you want to get into an Epson 4180 or
4990, Canon, Microtek, and Umax have equivalents, all are better for
small films. If you just want to have pics on the web you may get by
with a cheaper scanner. Just remember film scanners do film the best.
Some Polaroid 35mm scanners were quite good, but they have a SCSI
interface and you have no support if there is problems. SCSI scanners
can be finicky. Pacific Image had a series of film scanners they had
some very cheap ones, their higher priced scanners had a good
reputation.
Tom
Steve Wolfe - 01 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
> The KM Scan Dual IV is about the best bang for the buck. With flat beds
> the specs are often inflated and they give disappointing results
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> some very cheap ones, their higher priced scanners had a good
> reputation.
Any particular model recomendations on the SCSI Polaroid scanners? I have
a slew of SCSI-based systems (not to mention all of the extra controllers
and cables laying around), and if a used one could be had inexpensively,
that would make me very happy.
steve
rafe b - 01 Feb 2006 23:00 GMT
> Any particular model recomendations on the SCSI Polaroid scanners? I
> have
> a slew of SCSI-based systems (not to mention all of the extra controllers
> and cables laying around), and if a used one could be had inexpensively,
> that would make me very happy.
Polaroid SprintScan Plus was a much-coveted scanner in its
day that can be had for under $150 on eBay nowadays.
Very comparable to Nikon's LS-2000. Both were rated
at 2700 dpi. The SprintScan LE was a cheaper model,
which I'd avoid. Moving up the chain a notch, the SprintScan
4000 can probably be had for around $400 or so.
But as with any SCSI scanner it may take some skill and
patience to get it working with a "modern" PC and OS.
For starters, you'll need to download and install the so-called
ASPI layer, from Adaptec's website. Drivers for any of these
can be downloaded from Polaroid's web site.
rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
Steve - 01 Feb 2006 20:26 GMT
I would recommend getting a dedicated film scanner like a decent Minolta or
Nikon.
Lets face it, scanning negatives is a boring, laborious task, so believe me,
you only want to be doing it once. Better to get the best results first
time, so you don't have to do it again in the future.
> Hi,
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> Jonathan
Dave - 01 Feb 2006 22:35 GMT
>I would recommend getting a dedicated film scanner like a decent Minolta or
>Nikon.
I had a Nikon Coolscan but I get better results with an Epson 4180 -
except when it intermittently aborts with an 'out of memory' error
when I do 12 negatives at once (I have 2GB memory).
The Nikon would jam after the little rubber rollers that pulled the
strips of 6 negatives in lost their grip. Cotton buds dipped in Platen
Clean would temporarily restore the grip. No such problems with the
Epson 4180.
The results are just as good or better and the dust removal seems to
be as good, too. Also important is the fact it cost one quarter of the
price, about the same I paid for my handheld two-bit Atari scanner
years ago.
Dave.
2500 hi-resolution photos especially Edinburgh
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uglyone25@yahoo.com.au - 01 Feb 2006 21:12 GMT
Hello Jonathan, I have used Microtek scanners for a few years and I
have found thier support/helpline very good when I need support. I
would ask them. Tele- 01782 753366 or web site www.microtekeurope.com.
The head office is in Newcastle. Hope you find something, thier
scanners are not over priced.
Best Regards
uglyone25.
Adam Jacobs - 01 Feb 2006 21:36 GMT
I can definitely recommend against flat-bed scanners if you can help it.
The best one I've ever seen is the Visioneer 8920, and it is pretty
crummy. It can only do one frame at a time and the results are not so
great, very saturated colors and everything is kind of green..
Does anyone know of a film negative scanner that can do both 35mm and
120? This is the major reason I have been messing with flatbeds so far.
> Hi,
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> Jonathan
Dan Hollands - 02 Feb 2006 21:17 GMT
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> Jonathan
I used a PrimeFilm 1800u - cheap and gave adequate results - one frame at a
time

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Kennedy McEwen - 03 Feb 2006 17:42 GMT
>Hi,
>
>I have lots of 35mm films to scan. IM looking for a 35 mm scanner but I
>consider a flat scanner (or an all-in-one printer) that have a support for
>35mm films.
Personally, if you have a lot of 35nn images to scan, I would recommend
the Nikon LS-5000 with either or both of the SA-30 and SF-210 adapters,
depending on the form your film is stored in. If strips, you can save
on the adapters entirely as the basic scanner includes a strip adapter
and single frame slide adapter.
If you don't mind running back to your PC every 10 minutes for the next
year that it takes to scan your thousands of frames, then you might also
look at the Plustek OpticFilm 7200, which is cheaper and, allegedly,
gets as good results as the Nikon. I can't confirm this first hand, but
it has had good reviews in the press.

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Father Kodak - 04 Feb 2006 03:43 GMT
>>Hi,
>Personally, if you have a lot of 35nn images to scan, I would recommend
Wot a coincidence. Just today I was in my local camera emporium and
the head honcho there said that until now they were recommending both
the high-end Nikon and Minolta scanners, unless you wanted to buy a
drum scanner for twenty grand!
Now they are going to recommend Nikon only. And of course for me I
"need" both the SF-210 and SA-30 adapters. However, I was wondering
if the strip scanner that comes with the scanner automatically
advances the film frame by frame for batch scanning.
>the Nikon LS-5000 with either or both of the SA-30 and SF-210 adapters,
>depending on the form your film is stored in. If strips, you can save
>on the adapters entirely as the basic scanner includes a strip adapter
>and single frame slide adapter.
I should add that if I want 8000 line resolution, instead of the 4000
that the Nikon gives me, I can rent this scanner for $55/hour! That's
a great argument for going digital!
Father Kodak
Kennedy McEwen - 04 Feb 2006 17:21 GMT
>However, I was wondering
>if the strip scanner that comes with the scanner automatically
>advances the film frame by frame for batch scanning.
Yes it does - up to a maximum of 6 frames per strip as delivered.
However, with a minor tweak you can increase that to 40 frames per roll
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.periphs.scanners/msg/60b0a25021e222c1
(watch out for line wrap in this URL!)
You might want to wait until the warranty is up before making that
tweak. ;-)
The single frame mounted slide adapter isn't so easily modified for bulk
work - it is just a dumb holder without any motorised mechanism.

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Father Kodak - 05 Feb 2006 09:06 GMT
>>However, I was wondering
>>if the strip scanner that comes with the scanner automatically
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>
>(watch out for line wrap in this URL!)
No wrap problems. A detail. The real question is:
How in heck did you find out about this great hack? I think you just
saved me about $450! Any other inspired ideas like this one?
>You might want to wait until the warranty is up before making that
>tweak. ;-)
Yeah, once I'm past "infant mortality" of the electronics, I'll do the
hack.
>The single frame mounted slide adapter isn't so easily modified for bulk
>work - it is just a dumb holder without any motorised mechanism.
Too bad.
(a very pleased) Father Kodak
Kennedy McEwen - 05 Feb 2006 16:56 GMT
>>>However, I was wondering
>>>if the strip scanner that comes with the scanner automatically
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>How in heck did you find out about this great hack?
Comparison of the two adapters after buying an SA-30 adapter myself and
then tracing which connector pins the link went to with a meter.
> I think you just
>saved me about $450!
Glad to have helped.
>Any other inspired ideas like this one?
Yes - make sure you open the aperture at the back of the scanner and
have a container to collect the film before feeding a roll into it! ;-)

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Father Kodak - 05 Feb 2006 23:36 GMT
>>How in heck did you find out about this great hack?
>
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>Yes - make sure you open the aperture at the back of the scanner and
>have a container to collect the film before feeding a roll into it! ;-)
No problem. For the $450 I just saved (in advance) I'm sure that I
can think of _something_.
Father Kodak
crabsallover - 28 Feb 2006 04:17 GMT
Plustek OpticFilm 7200 /7200i (£130 - £250) was tested against Nikon
Coolscan LS-5000 by Practical Photography Magazine (UK).
http://www.datamind.co.uk/Merchant/pp_apr05_review_7200.pdf
Preview time with the Plustek was quicker than the Nikon but the Nikon
wins on normal scan speed. However the figure given in this article is
for scans at 7200dpi by the Plustek and 4000dpi for the Nikon. At
3600dpi the Plustek scans are as fast (48s) as the Nikon at 4000dpi.
The SA-30 adaptor does improve workflow - but at £400 extra is it cost
effective?
more Plustek OpticFilm 7200/7200i UK magazine reviews:
http://www.datamind.co.uk/Merchant/plustek_opticfilm_uk_press.htm
Chris Street www.datamind.co.uk
> >Hi,
> >
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> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)
Jonathan Sylvestre - 05 Feb 2006 05:03 GMT
Thank you very much for your answers.
I'll go with a 35 mm scanner.