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Jennifer Motta - 23 May 2005 13:41 GMT
I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general opinion is.
I met with a client that is getting married on New Years Eve.  At first I
thought I would charge a few hundred extra if they wanted me for a few
hours.   Turns out, they are going to need me for about 12 hrs.  She wants
pictures of getting ready..and then its one of those weddings that has a
huge gap in between the ceremony and the reception.  And they want  me to
stay until they bring in the New Year.
I guess a big part of it, is what I will be happy making on a Holiday.  And
what is worth it to me.  I'm just curious if most people charge extra.  And
how much extra.

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Craig Marston - 23 May 2005 18:01 GMT
> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general opinion
> is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years Eve.  At
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> And what is worth it to me.  I'm just curious if most people charge extra.
> And how much extra.

Ooh, that'll be a long day!

Sorry, that's not much help really is it..?

Craig.
Jennifer Motta - 23 May 2005 19:17 GMT
>> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general opinion
>> is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years Eve.  At
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>
> Craig.
Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will be well
worth it.  I'll just drink lots of coffee!!!
Mr. Mark - 23 May 2005 23:37 GMT
> Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
> Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will be well
> worth it.  I'll just drink lots of coffee!!!

Actually, that brings me to a question.

Is it normal for the photographer to be considered a "guest" at most events?
In other words, is it normally appropriate to have a bite to eat and so
forth?

If you're shooting for 12 hours - wow, that's lots of film or memory.  Would
you take breaks?  I guess there's time to relax between the wedding and
reception in this case.

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dadiOH - 24 May 2005 00:33 GMT
>> Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
>> Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will
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> events? In other words, is it normally appropriate to have a bite to
> eat and so forth?

You didn't ask me but what the hey...

Buffets, nibble.  Sit down dinner, ask in advance if they will be
feeding you (they usually do) but don't be crass about it...something
like, "Should I pack a bologna sandwich in my camera case?".  Open bar,
drink soft drinks; or, at most, a wine cooler or one beer.

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Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 00:49 GMT
> Mr. Mark wrote:
> You didn't ask me but what the hey...

Asking everyone :)

> Buffets, nibble.  Sit down dinner, ask in advance if they will be
> feeding you (they usually do) but don't be crass about it...something
> like, "Should I pack a bologna sandwich in my camera case?".  Open bar,
> drink soft drinks; or, at most, a wine cooler or one beer.

That sounds like good advice.  At the last event I ate before hand.  I think
a 12 hour wedding would be another matter entirely.

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Mike Kohary - 24 May 2005 00:41 GMT
>> Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
>> Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will
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> Would you take breaks?  I guess there's time to relax between the
> wedding and reception in this case.

It's pretty typical for the photographer to get a meal, but I don't expect
it.  Certainly you should take a break now and then when the action is down.

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Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 02:55 GMT
>> Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
>> Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will be
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> In other words, is it normally appropriate to have a bite to eat and so
> forth?

Depends on how long I'm hired for.  Usually, if I'm hired through dinner...
then yes, I do grab a bite to eat.  But I'm always conscious of what is
going on... take a few bites, take a pic.

> If you're shooting for 12 hours - wow, that's lots of film or memory.
> Would
> you take breaks?  I guess there's time to relax between the wedding and
> reception in this case.

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Unspam - 24 May 2005 09:41 GMT
>> Nope... not much help at all!!! lol  Will definitely be a long day...
>> Although, they ARE ordering one of my larger packages... so it will be
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> you take breaks?  I guess there's time to relax between the wedding and
> reception in this case.

I have a contract which compels the client to provide a meal and
refreshments for weddings over 6 hours, I am not a guest and prefer to be in
a separate area to download files on to my laptop during the meal and make
back ups on to DVD then re-use the cards. There are natural breaks in a
wedding and mealtimes is one of them, nobody wants pictures of themselves
shovelling food into their faces.
Rob Novak - 24 May 2005 18:44 GMT
>Is it normal for the photographer to be considered a "guest" at most events?
>In other words, is it normally appropriate to have a bite to eat and so
>forth?

Well, you're never a "guest" as a paid professional.  However, most
wedding photographers will stipulate in their contract that they are
to be provided a meal if the event goes over a certain amount of time.
Typically any longer than a 6-hour shoot.

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Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 22:31 GMT
> >Is it normal for the photographer to be considered a "guest" at most events?
> >In other words, is it normally appropriate to have a bite to eat and so
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> to be provided a meal if the event goes over a certain amount of time.
> Typically any longer than a 6-hour shoot.

That makes sense.  By "guest" I meant that the wedding party would need to
add 1 person to the caterer's list to cover the photog.  From the caterer's
point of view it's just another head to count, aka "guest".

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martin - 27 May 2005 10:27 GMT
> > >Is it normal for the photographer to be considered a "guest" at most
> events?
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> add 1 person to the caterer's list to cover the photog.  From the caterer's
> point of view it's just another head to count, aka "guest".

Couldn't disagree more.

A 'professional' professional would never consider themselves a guest and
certainly not expect food. And to put it in the contract?!! Good grief! I'm
a professional wedding photographer, and if food is offered (a buffet for
example) I respond very gratefully and have a quick bite (it's polite if
nothing else), but I wouldn't accept a place at a table. I just can't be
tied down for that long. As mentioned before, the dinner is a good time to
download and prepare, etc.

I always get offered a drink by someone at the wedding, but I'll only accept
a soft drink. Making a joke about wonky pictures and waving the camera
usually lets me off the hook. That's just because I know I'm pretty
lightweight, but if you are a regular drinker, you might have just one.

A 15 minute break from shooting is quite reasonable to expect, although I'd
never dream of needing to put it in the contract. But a sandwich and bottle
of water will sort the meal. Do you know how much some people spend per head
with their caterer? Even if there was a real need for continuous
photographic coverage throughout the day (I can't imagine one!), would you
lose the client for the sake of a bit of hunger in the afternoon?
Jennifer M. - 27 May 2005 12:07 GMT
(snip)
> A 'professional' professional would never consider themselves a guest and
> certainly not expect food. And to put it in the contract?!!

I agree with you on this point... I wouldn't put it in a contract either.

>I'm a professional wedding photographer, and if food is offered (a buffet
for
> example) I respond very gratefully and have a quick bite (it's polite if
> nothing else), but I wouldn't accept a place at a table.

I don't think there is anything wrong with sitting down for dinner.  If I'm
hired for 7 hours or more, why not sit down for a bit?!!?  I'm not saying
that while I'm sitting there I'm not paying attention to what is going on.
I basically eat with my camera on my lap!! Or close enough to me that I can
grab it if needed.  The only thing I don't like is when the
retaurant/banquet hall sets me up in a different room.  I really need to be
where the action is... so in that case, I usually just grab something quick.

> Do you know how much some people spend per head
> with their caterer? Even if there was a real need for continuous
> photographic coverage throughout the day (I can't imagine one!), would you
> lose the client for the sake of a bit of hunger in the afternoon?

I agree, they do spend a lot per person.... but I also don't think that
someone would lose the client because they would like a meal.  I have never
had a client of mine assume otherwise.  Its basically an unsaid thing that
the photographer gets a meal.... as well as the videographer and the DJs .
Chances are on a typical wedding day... I have to be at the Brides house at
roughly 1pm.  Which means I'm on the road at 1130 or so.  Which also means
that I probably ate something at 1030..... When the 6 o'clock dinner rolls
around, I'm ready!!! lol
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Piemanlager - 28 May 2005 08:37 GMT
> (snip)
>> A 'professional' professional would never consider themselves a guest and
>> certainly not expect food. And to put it in the contract?!!

Totally disagree. I know many proffesional that stipulate Food must be
provided if they are expected to be a the function until after the meal.
After all, if you have been at the wedding/ left your home for more than 4
hours before the meal, the 1.5-2 hours most uk meals take is another two
hours your getting hungry. If I am asked to stay until the evening, i always
stipulate that a meal of some sort (usually a light Bar meal) must be
provided. This is due to the fact that through experience, i have found some
kitchens will not provide "Bar" food if they are producing a 3 - 5 course
meal for 100+ gueests, and have gone hungry, once!
However, i also say I do not want a meal at the table with other guest but
prefere to eat on my own or usually with the Viseographer who also is
provided with a light lunch. In the UK it is illegal to make some one work
for more than 4 hours with out a 15 minute break!

> I agree with you on this point... I wouldn't put it in a contract either.
>
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> saying that while I'm sitting there I'm not paying attention to what is
> going on. I basically eat with my camera on my lap!!

This must be very uncomfatable?

Or close enough to me that I can
> grab it if needed.  The only thing I don't like is when the
> retaurant/banquet hall sets me up in a different room.  I really need to
> be where the action is... so in that case, I usually just grab something
> quick.

There should not really be much to photograph during meal time. Only when
the main courses are over and speaches, presents/flowers and offical cutting
of the cake are done should you need the camera.

> > Do you know how much some people spend per head
>> with their caterer? Even if there was a real need for continuous
>> photographic coverage throughout the day (I can't imagine one!),

Some customers ask for it, but very few use the evening shots as any thing
else other than proof shotts in a proof album.

> would you
>> lose the client for the sake of a bit of hunger in the afternoon?

Yes, if they can not give you the respect of providing you with food through
a loong day, they probably will not give you much respect during the wedding
and thus make the photography hard work, dont want those sort any more!

> I agree, they do spend a lot per person.... but I also don't think that
> someone would lose the client because they would like a meal.  I have
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> Which also means that I probably ate something at 1030..... When the 6
> o'clock dinner rolls around, I'm ready!!! lol

Too true!
Gizmo - 31 May 2005 16:24 GMT
In the UK it is illegal to make some one work
> for more than 4 hours with out a 15 minute break!

That law was "edited" quite a number of years ago     :o/
Mr. Mark - 27 May 2005 14:45 GMT
> A 15 minute break from shooting is quite reasonable to expect, although I'd
> never dream of needing to put it in the contract. But a sandwich and bottle
> of water will sort the meal. Do you know how much some people spend per head
> with their caterer? Even if there was a real need for continuous
> photographic coverage throughout the day (I can't imagine one!), would you
> lose the client for the sake of a bit of hunger in the afternoon?

Well you see why I asked the question then. :)

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Unspam - 27 May 2005 16:56 GMT
>>>> Is it normal for the photographer to be considered a "guest" at most
>> events?
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> photographic coverage throughout the day (I can't imagine one!), would you
> lose the client for the sake of a bit of hunger in the afternoon?

I assume you tug your forelock and say "yes m'lady" too. I have food
included as part og the contract and it hasn't been any kind of a problem, I
have eaten in the Savoy, Gordon Ramsays at Claridges, The Lanesborough, The
Dorchester etc. It tastes even better when someone else is paying.
dadiOH - 23 May 2005 19:41 GMT
> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general
> opinion is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years
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> Holiday.  And what is worth it to me.  I'm just curious if most
> people charge extra.

Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
there is nothing wrong with requiring a higher minimum order.  And for
12 hours on New Year's Eve I would suggest a *much* higher minimum.
Paid in advance.

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Mr. Mark - 23 May 2005 23:35 GMT
> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
> there is nothing wrong with requiring a higher minimum order.  And for
> 12 hours on New Year's Eve I would suggest a *much* higher minimum.
> Paid in advance.

Would you suggest always getting paid in advance?  What's "normal"?  Half up
front?

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dadiOH - 24 May 2005 00:39 GMT
>> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
>> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
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> Would you suggest always getting paid in advance?  What's "normal"?
> Half up front?

There really is no normal but IMO it saves problems if you get it up
front.  Naturally, some are loath to part with it; depends a lot on your
reputation, how well known you are, stability...like that.  In my case,
it was 1/2 prior to the wedding, balance when they picked up the proofs.

In a scenario like the one she asked about and increasing the minimum
order I definitely would have insisted on payment up front.

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Mike Kohary - 24 May 2005 00:41 GMT
>> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
>> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
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> Would you suggest always getting paid in advance?  What's "normal"?
> Half up front?

Most wedding photographers take a deposit; details vary.  Mine is $250 or
25%, whichever is larger, non-refundable.

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Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 00:50 GMT
"Mike Kohary" <sorry@no.spam> wrote
and
"dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote
<snip>

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Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 03:06 GMT
>> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
>> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
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> up
> front?

I have tried my payments many ways... what I do now is payment upfront.  I
definitely don't want to have to get paid the day of...thats uncomfortable.
And I really don't want to have to wait until after either.  I had a client
that kept putting off the delivery of the album, and I'm sure its because
payment was due.  So, for me, I explain that its due up front.  Who knows if
I have lost work because of that, but its what I'm comfortable with.

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Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 18:45 GMT
> I have tried my payments many ways... what I do now is payment upfront.  I
> definitely don't want to have to get paid the day of...thats uncomfortable.
> And I really don't want to have to wait until after either.  I had a client
> that kept putting off the delivery of the album, and I'm sure its because
> payment was due.  So, for me, I explain that its due up front.  Who knows if
> I have lost work because of that, but its what I'm comfortable with.

More likely you have lost wasted days of work for which you didn't get paid.
:)

It's always ok to walk away from work.  That was an interesting lesson when
I started my own business.  I discovered that I didn't have to have clients
that I didn't like.  Wow!  Now my life is much happier :)

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Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 18:55 GMT
Well, I definitely don't get to choose my customers.  I also joke with my
assistant about that.  I wish that I could put in my contract " If your are
psycho, I'm not available".  lol

For the most part.. I have had great clients.  Guess I've been lucky that
way.

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>> I have tried my payments many ways... what I do now is payment upfront.
>> I
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> clients
> that I didn't like.  Wow!  Now my life is much happier :)
Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 22:33 GMT
> Well, I definitely don't get to choose my customers.

Why not?  If this is financial necessity, I bet things will change as you
become established.

> For the most part.. I have had great clients.  Guess I've been lucky that
> way.

Ditto.  However, I do some work for an evil corporation who shall remain
nameless.  I produce Six Sigma reports for them so they can lay people off.
I'm sure this is going to affect my Karma in a negative way. :/

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Piemanlager - 25 May 2005 10:40 GMT
> Well, I definitely don't get to choose my customers.  I also joke with my
> assistant about that.  I wish that I could put in my contract " If your
> are psycho, I'm not available".  lol

In 7 years of wedding photography (UK) I have only ever visited a potential
customers house and sat there thinking "please dont Book," they did! Chap in
his early 30`s getting married but still his life was controlled by his
mother! She treated him as if he were about 10, even on the wedding day. The
poor wife had hardly any say in anything, you could just see that she sut up
for her own good, plus she had three little kids to look after!
The day will one be re-told in my memoirs book, it could form a whole
chapter on its own!

> For the most part.. I have had great clients.  Guess I've been lucky that
> way.
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>> clients
>> that I didn't like.  Wow!  Now my life is much happier :)
Mike Kohary - 25 May 2005 22:47 GMT
>> Well, I definitely don't get to choose my customers.  I also joke
>> with my assistant about that.  I wish that I could put in my
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> memoirs book, it could form a whole
> chapter on its own!

The only jobs I've turned down were from very clear "Bridezillas".  I simply
won't work for such a person, and fortunately I have the luxury not to have
to.  :)

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Unspam - 24 May 2005 09:41 GMT
>> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
>> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Would you suggest always getting paid in advance?  What's "normal"?  Half up
> front?

I get the whole amount paid up front at least 10 days before the wedding,
that is also in the contract.
Gerald Place - 24 May 2005 17:26 GMT
I may be impossibly naive, but don't most people who are free-lances have to
work when the work is there? I combine photography with work as a
professional musician, and nobody pays me a premium to sing on holidays. If
I asked for one they'd just book some-one else...

> >> Personally, I never did.  If I wasn't willing to do it for what I
> >> normally charged I just turned it down..."personal plans".  However,
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> I get the whole amount paid up front at least 10 days before the wedding,
> that is also in the contract.
Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 22:34 GMT
> I may be impossibly naive, but don't most people who are free-lances have to
> work when the work is there? I combine photography with work as a
> professional musician, and nobody pays me a premium to sing on holidays. If
> I asked for one they'd just book some-one else...

I guess the market drives such things.

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Mike Kohary - 24 May 2005 22:53 GMT
> I may be impossibly naive, but don't most people who are free-lances
> have to work when the work is there?

Depends on how business is.  If business is real good, one can afford to be
choosy.

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Jennifer Motta - 25 May 2005 00:07 GMT
I guess you could say that you have to work when the work is there... but
that's why I was asking if the general consensus is to charge extra.  My
view.... if I need the cash and I don't have much work... then I would
charge regular price... BUT if its a holiday, that I would prefer not to
work on... then I may charge extra..that way, if they hire me, at least I
won't be as upset having to work on a holiday because I'm making a little
extra.

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>I may be impossibly naive, but don't most people who are free-lances have
>to
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>> I get the whole amount paid up front at least 10 days before the wedding,
>> that is also in the contract.
Mr. Mark - 25 May 2005 00:26 GMT
> I guess you could say that you have to work when the work is there... but
> that's why I was asking if the general consensus is to charge extra.  My
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> won't be as upset having to work on a holiday because I'm making a little
> extra.

I can't speak from experience as a photographer, but I can as a software
contractor.  If you /need/ the work the last thing you want is to appear
like you need the work. :)

If it is a holiday I would rather not work on then I don't take the work.  I
don't have children to feed - so this cowboy approach works pretty well so
far.

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JME - 25 May 2005 00:35 GMT
I would be charging for the day, 12 hrs plus premium for the holiday..They
will understand, and if not then you are probably better off not working for
them.

No one will ever thank you for working for nothing....

> I guess you could say that you have to work when the work is there... but
> that's why I was asking if the general consensus is to charge extra.  My
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> >> I get the whole amount paid up front at least 10 days before the wedding,
> >> that is also in the contract.
Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 03:06 GMT
I always get everything 'paid in advance'.  Learned that one the hard way ;)

Jennifer Motta
www.jennifermotta.com

>> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general
>> opinion is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years
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Richard H. - 24 May 2005 03:45 GMT
> I always get everything 'paid in advance'.  Learned that one the hard way ;)

I've heard stories about couples that didn't make it through the
honeymoon, decided they'd spent too much on the wedding, etc...

Best to get payment when their interest is high, and before the other
bills have come in.

If it were an issue you could use a formal escrow service where the
money is held by a 3rd party until the goods are delivered to
contractual specs (not 'upon approval' of the buyer).

Richard
Unspam - 23 May 2005 22:47 GMT
> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general opinion is.
> I met with a client that is getting married on New Years Eve.  At first I
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> what is worth it to me.  I'm just curious if most people charge extra.  And
> how much extra.

Double it and add on a bit more for luck, if they want you they will pay, if
they don't you can go out and enjoy yourself on New Years Eve.
Mike Kohary - 24 May 2005 00:41 GMT
> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general
> opinion is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years
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> Holiday.  And what is worth it to me.  I'm just curious if most
> people charge extra.  And how much extra.

I guess I never thought about it much, but my first inclination is, yeah,
I'd charge extra for a holiday gig.  After that first inclination, I'd do a
little research in my home town (if nobody else did that, I guess it might
not be wise for me to do it either, but if anybody or everybody else did the
same, then I'd feel pretty confident about doing it myself).

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Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 03:06 GMT
I have looked around.. and found that some photographers charge a flat fee
of $300 extra for holidays.
Its a tough call though.  One good thing is that I have met them, and they
were really great people.  Which REALLY makes me want it that much more.
Very friendly people, beautiful bride..all the good stuff :)  And that
really makes the day sooooo much better.  I feel that I would have a great
time while making some great cash!!!  I really enjoy wedding photography.  I
don't claim to be one of the best, and I'm learning everyday, but I have to
say I LOVE MY JOB!!!   and at the end of the day, thats what its all about.

(I'm just having one of those "I'm a lucky girl days"  Don't mind me)  :)

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>> I'm just curious about pricing on a holiday and what the general
>> opinion is. I met with a client that is getting married on New Years
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> might not be wise for me to do it either, but if anybody or everybody else
> did the same, then I'd feel pretty confident about doing it myself).
Larry CdeBaca - 24 May 2005 05:29 GMT
Never let anyone take away that joy.
That said, it *is* NYE, what about your honey?
Take 'em with you.

>I have looked around.. and found that some photographers charge a flat fee
>of $300 extra for holidays.
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>> might not be wise for me to do it either, but if anybody or everybody
>> else did the same, then I'd feel pretty confident about doing it myself).
Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 18:47 GMT
> That said, it *is* NYE, what about your honey?
> Take 'em with you.

I'm lucky. My photo partner is my honey.  :)

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Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 19:02 GMT
You are lucky for that... I bring my husband occasionally on shoots.  He has
a very good eye for that kind of thing... but doesn't take pictures.  But
its nice to have someone along with ideas

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>> That said, it *is* NYE, what about your honey?
>> Take 'em with you.
>
> I'm lucky. My photo partner is my honey.  :)
Mr. Mark - 24 May 2005 22:36 GMT
> You are lucky for that... I bring my husband occasionally on shoots.  He has
> a very good eye for that kind of thing... but doesn't take pictures.  But
> its nice to have someone along with ideas

Do you put him to work as an assistant?  Mimi and I help each other a
little, but for the most part we're like having two autonomous photogs at
the same place.  It's so much fun to look at the photos after the fact to
see how she saw the world vs. how i saw it. :)

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Jennifer Motta - 25 May 2005 00:13 GMT
>> You are lucky for that... I bring my husband occasionally on shoots.  He
> has
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> the same place.  It's so much fun to look at the photos after the fact to
> see how she saw the world vs. how i saw it. :)

I do put him to work... he usually refers to himself as the "mule" lol
He has never picked up a camera in his life... but as I said he has the eye
for it.  He always points out the shots that I take that are better than
average.  He knows about lighting and angles...things like that.  I actually
have learned a lot from him in that way.  He is really into movies... knows
good directing when he sees it, that kind of thing.  Its nice to have
someone around to critique my work.  And its nice that he knows the
difference between a good shot and a great shot.

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Mr. Mark - 25 May 2005 00:30 GMT
> I do put him to work... he usually refers to himself as the "mule" lol

:)

> He has never picked up a camera in his life... but as I said he has the eye
> for it.  He always points out the shots that I take that are better than
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> someone around to critique my work.  And its nice that he knows the
> difference between a good shot and a great shot.

When Mimi and I go out together one or the other of us is always finding
shots that might interest the other, but that we personally wouldn't take.
It's fun to know each other's style so well.  I think her eye is better than
mine, but I know the camera better.  So when she envisions a photo,
sometimes I take it.  It's team work :)

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Jennifer Motta - 25 May 2005 01:15 GMT
>> I do put him to work... he usually refers to himself as the "mule" lol
>
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> mine, but I know the camera better.  So when she envisions a photo,
> sometimes I take it.  It's team work :)

Exactly!  :)

Jennifer Motta - 24 May 2005 18:56 GMT
Thats a possibility.  Good thinking! ;)

> Never let anyone take away that joy.
> That said, it *is* NYE, what about your honey?
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>>> everybody else did the same, then I'd feel pretty confident about doing
>>> it myself).
 
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