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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / General Topics / April 2005photographing a wedding at sunset
I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at > sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim > lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. Ever heard of fill-in flash? >> I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at >> sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim >> lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. > > Ever heard of fill-in flash? Yes... Just worried that isn't enough. The wedding is taking place on a gazebo, near woods. And I was hoping to avoid completely black backgrounds. > Yes... Just worried that isn't enough. The wedding is taking place on a > gazebo, near woods. And I was hoping to avoid completely black backgrounds. Well, the best you can do is probably 1/30th with a flash to get the most of the background as possible and still be able to handhold. Well ... unless you plan to light it like a movie set, you will have a large share of pictures *with* black backgrounds. Even if you use very high speed (read: grainy) color negative film. > >> I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at > >> sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yes... Just worried that isn't enough. The wedding is taking place on a > gazebo, near woods. And I was hoping to avoid completely black backgrounds. >Well ... unless you plan to light it like a movie set, you will have a >large share of pictures *with* black backgrounds. Even if you use very high >speed (read: grainy) color negative film. Nah - just drag the shutter at anywhere from 1/15-1/60 and use an off-camera flash with diffuser to freeze the subjects. The backgrounds won't necessarily be blacked out, but there will be some blur/movement in the places where the flash doesn't illuminate. If done well, this is not a bad thing.  SignatureCentral Maryland Photographer's Guild http://cmpg.org > Nah - just drag the shutter at anywhere from 1/15-1/60 and use an > off-camera flash with diffuser to freeze the subjects. The > backgrounds won't necessarily be blacked out, but there will be some > blur/movement in the places where the flash doesn't illuminate. If > done well, this is not a bad thing. Not at all.. I bet it would create some pretty dramatic shots. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at > sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim > lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. A tripod won't do you much good with moving subjects like humans anyway. :) I'd think there would be plenty of really nice warm light. If light is a problem get faster film, if it's not fast enough, push it - can the flash, you'll never need it in a million years. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >> I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at >> sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > problem get faster film, if it's not fast enough, push it - can the flash, > you'll never need it in a million years. I was even thinking of 1600... I know thats probably over kill but i like the grain. Probably try it with 2nd camera. > I was even thinking of 1600... I know thats probably over kill but i like > the grain. Probably try it with 2nd camera. I don't usually shoot color, but when I do I really enjoy FujiPress 800 and 1600. If light is a problem you can push to 6400 no problem. Grain is delicious - I eat it up! :) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >> I was even thinking of 1600... I know thats probably over kill but i like >> the grain. Probably try it with 2nd camera. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 1600. If light is a problem you can push to 6400 no problem. Grain is > delicious - I eat it up! :) I agree about the grain.. love it. And I think that given the choice : flash- lighting up people, blackening background... or no flash- grain... gotta go with the grain. I just hope there is a little mood lighting. I'll have to talk with the bride about it. Jen > I agree about the grain.. love it. And I think that given the choice : > flash- lighting up people, blackening background... or no flash- grain... > gotta go with the grain. I just hope there is a little mood lighting. I'll > have to talk with the bride about it. Tell them you can't work under these conditions and threaten to quite unless they have the wedding around your personal schedule. How inconsiderate can they be? Sheesh! LOL! OMG, I kill me. :) Seriously though, good luck and please share the results and lessons learned :) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >> I agree about the grain.. love it. And I think that given the choice : >> flash- lighting up people, blackening background... or no flash- grain... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > learned > :) LOL.. very funny.. when first reading that I thought you were serious!! lol I'm probably just worrying about nothing anyway... sunset could just mean 30 mins before sunset.. in which case I'm fine. I honestly haven't been taking pictures for all that long. I worked at a professional lab for 12 years... definitly learned a lot of what NOT to do...lol I'm always learning and always reading what I can. Talking to other photographers really helps also. I will definitly post my results.. although, the wedding isn't until May 28th. I like looking at other peoples work also...to get new ideas on posing, etc.... > I'm probably just worrying about nothing anyway... sunset could just mean 30 > mins before sunset.. in which case I'm fine. Even after sunset you have about 30 minutes of light, depending on proximity of mountains and such. In my case that's about 700 miles :) > I honestly haven't been taking > pictures for all that long. And you just jumped right into shooting pro? I'm impressed. Do you still have a day job too or is this paying your bills? If I could stomach shooting weddings I think I'd take it up as a weekend job... and I may still talk myself into it. > I will definitly post my results.. although, the wedding isn't until > May 28th. I like looking at other peoples work also...to get new ideas on > posing, etc.... May I suggest adding your web site to a signature. This way you don't have to do stuff like post "please come see my site" which I notice annoys more than a few as it's view as spam. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > If I could > stomach shooting weddings I think I'd take it up as a weekend job... > and I may still talk myself into it. Don't...with that attitude you would be doomed to failure. It is one of the more difficult jobs in photography when done right. And when done right it is exhilarating work, not something one has to "stomach". -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > > If I could > > stomach shooting weddings I think I'd take it up as a weekend job... > > and I may still talk myself into it. > > Don't...with that attitude you would be doomed to failure. I suspect you are 200% correct. Somehow shooting for other people means my own artistic vision has to be subjugated to that of the bride's, for example. That sucks. > It is one of > the more difficult jobs in photography when done right. And when done > right it is exhilarating work, not something one has to "stomach". Probably takes a certain personality type that I am not. I enjoyed watching a wedding photographer recently at a friend's wedding. He was almost like part of the entertainment - big smile, couple of witty lines before each shot, almost blended in during the candids.. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at > > sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > problem get faster film, if it's not fast enough, push it - can the flash, > you'll never need it in a million years. You really do need the flash, with a sunset behind the people all you will get are silhouettes, unless you use a fill flash. The film really does not need to be that high speed. Meter as if you were not going to use the flash and then increase the shutter speed a couple of stops, this way your background sunset will be dark but very visible. You might want to go out and shoot a test roll before you do this for the wedding, just to get a feel for it. Scott > You really do need the flash, with a sunset behind the people all you > will get are silhouettes, unless you use a fill flash. The film really [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Scott Someone else mentioned fill flash with a colorful sunset backdrop. That has the potential to be spectacular if the ceremony is timed just right. The evening sky goes through some very different phases with hugely different properties. Doing some test shots a few days before and timing the events to those results could be very helpful. "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message > You really do need the flash, with a sunset behind the people all you > will get are silhouettes, unless you use a fill flash. silhouettes = romantic :) that should work at a wedding. you can't talk me into using flash, nope, no way. > The film really > does not need to be that high speed. Meter as if you were not going to > use the flash and then increase the shutter speed a couple of stops, > this way your background sunset will be dark but very visible. fast film is nice and grainy. it even /feels/ artistic. your point actually makes me wonder if the wedding is going to be on a beach or someplace where the sunset is actually visible. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > your point actually makes me wonder if the wedding is going to be on a beach > or someplace where the sunset is actually visible. Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was very dark http://www.sewcon.com/photos/Nikon_5876.jpg Shutter speed was close to 1/2 second, ISO was 400 and f-stop was f/2.6. Without the flash there would be no photo here at all. If I used a faster shutter I would have removed the bit of motion blur but the background would be black. Scott > Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was very > dark > http://www.sewcon.com/photos/Nikon_5876.jpg Nice pic, but it doesn't sell me. There's no mood when the flash is engaged. > Shutter speed was close to 1/2 second, ISO was 400 and f-stop was > f/2.6. Without the flash there would be no photo here at all. I still think there would be a photo and it would be filled with moody colors, but it would take some Zen to find it. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > > Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was very > > dark [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I still think there would be a photo and it would be filled with moody > colors, but it would take some Zen to find it. In this case I don't believe I could have gotten any shot without the flash. I already was at a 1/2 exposure and even here the background is fairly dark, the foreground had even less light. This was a candid shot and the people we moving and would have been very blurred even with an 1/8 exposure. The point is that when it gets dark enough the only way to get a photo is using some kind of light, like a flash. But if you do the normal thing that many people do, set the shutter speed to something like 1/250, they you will lose the background completely. When I can I much prefer to shoot using avalible light but we don't always get to choose what conditions we photograph in, the trick is making the best of what we have. Scott > This was a candid shot and the people we moving and would have been > very blurred even with an 1/8 exposure. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > thing that many people do, set the shutter speed to something like > 1/250, they you will lose the background completely. ISO 1600 pushed to 6400 or greater. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > > This was a candid shot and the people we moving and would have been > > very blurred even with an 1/8 exposure. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- Just give it up, sometimes there is simply not enough light to take a photograph. Scott > > ISO 1600 pushed to 6400 or greater. > > Just give it up, sometimes there is simply not enough light to take a > photograph. That's when Zen takes over. :) Probably not work for weddings as brides on their wedding days are notoriously un-Zen like. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com Hello time capturers I have been told by so many friends and peers that I am a fantastic picture taker. I photograph everything and anything. I have been given a Nikon F65 so I can improve my skills. I love it. However I know enough to know I know nothing about photography. Therefore I would like to take possession of some of your knowledge. Can anyone give me some feedback on the F65 and compare it to what's on the market? Cheers DarreN >> Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was >> very dark >> http://www.sewcon.com/photos/Nikon_5876.jpg > > Nice pic, but it doesn't sell me. There's no mood when the flash is > engaged. And no saleable photo when it isn't. ___________________ >> Shutter speed was close to 1/2 second, ISO was 400 and f-stop was >> f/2.6. Without the flash there would be no photo here at all. > > I still think there would be a photo and it would be filled with moody > colors, but it would take some Zen to find it. Now all you would need are Zen Buddhist customers. Scarce. About as scarce as brides that like grain or blur. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > > I still think there would be a photo and it would be filled with moody > > colors, but it would take some Zen to find it. > > Now all you would need are Zen Buddhist customers. Scarce. About as > scarce as brides that like grain or blur. Is probably why I'm not shooting weddings for a living. ;) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >>> Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was >>> very dark [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico I don't think in general that brides would mind the grain... the blur on the other hand, may look nice to people that have the eye and/or taste for that.... but I think most of my customers would think I screwed up somehow! lol >> Well by the time I took this shot the sun was long down and it was very >> dark >> http://www.sewcon.com/photos/Nikon_5876.jpg > >Nice pic, but it doesn't sell me. There's no mood when the flash is >engaged. Sometimes there's no other possible way. I think that's the point of this photo, flash was the only way to get it. No, it's not as attractive as natural light, but sometimes a lesser photo is better than no photo at all. It's a cute picture. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Kohary mike at kohary dot com http://www.kohary.com Karma Photography: http://www.karmaphotography.com Seahawks Historical Database: http://www.kohary.com/seahawks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > beach > or someplace where the sunset is actually visible. I don't even think its going to be visible... its not on a beach or anything like that... the location is acutally a gazebo located about 500 yards from the banquet facility. The gazebo is basically surrounded by trees on 3 sides... thats why I was concerned that there wasn't even going to be candlelight or anything. I am hoping that its actually will take place about 30 mins before sunset. I'm going to shoot a test roll.. possibly even at the location..and try a few things just to be sure. > I don't even think its going to be visible... its not on a beach or anything > like that... the location is acutally a gazebo located about 500 yards from > the banquet facility. The gazebo is basically surrounded by trees on 3 > sides... thats why I was concerned that there wasn't even going to be > candlelight or anything. That could cause problems. In the woods this weekend, light became quite dim about an hour before sunset. Still plenty for photos of still things, and artful shots of creatures who won't have any interest in purchasing the photos we took of them. ;) With short lens and wide aperture, plenty of light to shoot at ISO 3200 even up till the sun was below the horizon, and then for about 30 or 45 minutes 6400 would have been fine. But the trees will definately reduce your effective flashless shooting time. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at >sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim >lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. Some friends asked me to photograph their wedding. The ceremony was going to be at 2pm and be the full-blown Catholic jobbie until I pointed out to them that the photos afterwards would be a *tad* on the dark side, what with the wedding date of 21st Dec .... in the UK ... So they moved the ceremony forward an hour and we did some outdoor shots of just the Bride, Groom, Best Man and Bridesmaids. I got some fast B/W film and got some nice grainy shots at sunset (thankfully it was a cloudless day). They understood that small groups (of up to around a dozen) would be the only way we'd get photos of the whole party, so that's what we did. I think the results were good, considering ... and they're still my friends. SignatureHooDooWitch http://www.ianwhitephoto.co.uk I'm into monkey business and business is booming. > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding > at sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim > lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. All I can say is high ISO and a fast lens (f/2.8 or better). Liberal use of flash should help also. Are you using film or digital? If digital, what's the camera? I'm just wondering how far you can pump up the ISO without getting too much noise. If you have a Canon 20D, you should be able to go to ISO 1600. The other Canon DSLRs and I think the Nikons also, probably just to ISO 800. I took my kids to the beach near sunset a few weeks ago, and took pictures with my Canon 20D at dusk at ISO 800, with the onboard flash and everything on full auto (I'm not normally a flash guy, so didn't want to mess with trying to figure it all out on the spot). I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the output - the flash illuminated the kids just right, but didn't wash out the lovely sunset colors in the background. That kind of shooting is something I'll want to experiment around with some more. Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Kohary mike at kohary dot com http://www.kohary.com Karma Photography: http://www.karmaphotography.com Seahawks Historical Database: http://www.kohary.com/seahawks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > trying to figure it all out on the spot). I was pleasantly surprised at the > quality of the output - the flash illuminated the kids just right, but > didn't wash out the lovely sunset colors in the background. Only washed out the lovely sunset colors on the kids? <g> SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com Depending on your camera, Set your exposure for the background, then set your flash for the forground.. I would'nt use an ISO any higher than needed. Grain is great, but most couples would rather have nice clean sharp images. I don't have any example online but her is a link to a some wedding shots at sunset with fill flash.. http://www.hawaiiweddingpackages.com/ > I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at > sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim > lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. > Depending on your camera, Set your exposure for the background, then set > your flash for the forground.. I would'nt use an ISO any higher than needed. > Grain is great, but most couples would rather have nice clean sharp images. > I don't have any example online but her is a link to a some wedding shots at > sunset with fill flash.. > http://www.hawaiiweddingpackages.com/ I agree with keeping the ISO low, grain is at best an acquired taste. When all people did with photos was to make prints grain was not as much of an issue as when they want to post their photo on web site or email them to friends. More and more photos are being viewed on computers and on a computer gain is not attractive to most people eyes. The very fine grain on a great black and white prints can add to the feeling of the print, gain on a color photo view on a computer just looks bad. But even if the photos are only going to be view as prints grain is not to most peoples liking. Scott > But even if the photos are only going to be view as prints grain is not > to most peoples liking. You did a survey? I see how my friends' parents take photos with $2000 worth of camera equipment. On camera flash, save to computer, print unedited crapola snapshots direct to printer on standard paper to hand out like it's fine art. That's "most" people. Wouldn't know art if it kicked them in the ... What do these people care about grain? They can't even take a photo of their grandkids without a cluttered background and 1 corner of the TV in the frame. Of course, I can almost hear one of these folks saying "Wow, that's the most beautiful photo I've ever seen. Too bad about the grain." AHHGG! I shoot with 1600 film on purpose! :) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > > But even if the photos are only going to be view as prints grain is not > > to most peoples liking. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -- But of course the whole point of this thread was looking for advice on how to shoot low light photos, where the photos are for someone else. So making an agrument that most people don't know good photography is rather beside the point. I would suggest that a Wedding is not the right time to try to change someones idea of what is a good photo and what is not. If you like grain that's fine, but why do you feel everyone else should share your taste in this? Scott > So making an agrument that most people don't know good photography is > rather beside the point. I would suggest that a Wedding is not the > right time to try to change someones idea of what is a good photo and > what is not. Maybe not. > If you like grain that's fine, but why do you feel everyone else should > share your taste in this? I think people should open their eyes and see the photo for what it is. Every one has style preferences, but those with open minds and open eyes can see. ;) > But of course the whole point of this thread was looking for advice on > how to shoot low light photos, where the photos are for someone else. Maybe low light, maybe not. Sunset + or - 30 minutes isn't what I'd call low light. SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > Maybe low light, maybe not. Sunset + or - 30 minutes isn't what I'd call > low light. I am use to the tropics, here 30 minutes after sunset is black, unless there is a moon. But even with a moon it is hard to get photos of people unless they hold very still. Scott > > Maybe low light, maybe not. Sunset + or - 30 minutes isn't what I'd > call [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > there is a moon. But even with a moon it is hard to get photos of > people unless they hold very still. What part of the tropics, if I may ask? Tell them to act like statues. <g> I discovered a while back that telling people to "hold that pose" is guaranteed to make them not. :) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > What part of the tropics, if I may ask? Tell them to act like statues. <g> > > I discovered a while back that telling people to "hold that pose" is > guaranteed to make them not. :) > > -- We live in Hawaii, on the Big Island. We get use to the sun really sinking fast. When we visit the mainland the sun seems to take forever to set. Scott > > What part of the tropics, if I may ask? Tell them to act like > statues. <g> > We live in Hawaii, on the Big Island. We get use to the sun really > sinking fast. Oh! Duh.. I need to start keeping notes on people here so I don't ask stupid questions that I already know the answer to. :) > When we visit the mainland the sun seems to take forever to set. We have installed a sunset inhibiting device in most of the larger cities. If you want more light in Hawaii I can sell you one for about the same cost as a new EOS-1Ds Mark 2. ;) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com > > > What part of the tropics, if I may ask? Tell them to act like > > statues. <g> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If you want more light in Hawaii I can sell you one for about the same cost > as a new EOS-1Ds Mark 2. ;) With the telescopes here they really don't like much in the way of bright lights on at night. The street lights are all low pressure sodium, with is easy to filter due to its very narrow bandwidth. Of course we don't have a large city on this island in any event. Scott You didn't mention if you intend to use a flash or available light. If using available light I highly recommend a monopod in conjunction with 400 or 800 iso. They are much easier to handle than a tripod, yet give you the steadiness for using a slow shutter speed, or a tele length lens. CP >I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at >sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim >lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. Since i didn't specify this... i probably should now... I'm not concerned with getting the sunset... since the location is basically a gazebo surrounded by trees... my concern is no light. I'm worried if they wait until dusk, I won't have ANY available light. Thanks for all the input everyone. I'm going to try all of it before the wedding. Jennifer Motta www.jennifermotta.com >I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas about shooting a wedding at >sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim >lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. > Thanks for all the input everyone. I'm going to try all of it before the > wedding. I think if you just pop by at sunset you'll be able to tell just by looking around what you'll need. No need to burn a test roll. Take the camera and take a few meter readings. That will tell you all you need. I think the best bet for the future, if you can't check the conditions before hand, take some fast film, take some slow film, take a flash. Now you are ready for all possibilities. And if you can Zen the flash into art then you're in business. ;) SignatureMark Lauter Photos, Ideas & Opinions http://www.marklauter.com >Since i didn't specify this... i probably should now... I'm not concerned >with getting the sunset... since the location is basically a gazebo [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>sunset. I'm assuming there will be little light , possibly dim >>lights/candles etc. I don't want to have to be confined to a tripod. more suggestions for you!!! find out about the direction of the sun (while setting) in relation to the place you will be viewing the action from. ie. if most will be happening so that you are facing away from the sun, AND at near sunset that is the darker side of the wooded area, then look into bringing a desk lamp or 2 with you (unless you have something nicer to provide the illumination with you, and a way to change the brightness, maybe different wattage bulbs?) and setting them up as back lights (preferably with gels) AND using you flash as a fill. Also if you have a decent flash (read non-pop-up) maybe use/buy/borrow/rent an extension cable for it so you can hold it off to the side and up from the camera height for some shots (avoids red eye in dark settings. other than that I think everyone covered about all I could think of... >>Since i didn't specify this... i probably should now... I'm not concerned >>with getting the sunset... since the location is basically a gazebo [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > other than that I think everyone covered about all I could think of... I think that I'm going to be too far away to even think about power cords. The main building is quite a ways from the gazebo. I think I'm going to just try shooting a few different ways before hand. Someone said not to waste any film on test rolls but considering this is a WEDDING I'm talking about here, I think its worth a few extra bucks to make sure I get what I need. I do have a decent flash that I attach to a stroboframe to avoid the red eye thing... I would really like to avoid flash if I can though... SignatureJennifer Motta www.jennifermotta.com > I do have a decent flash > that I attach to a stroboframe to avoid the red eye thing... I would > really like to avoid flash if I can though... Bounce it. SignaturedadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico >> I do have a decent flash >> that I attach to a stroboframe to avoid the red eye thing... I would >> really like to avoid flash if I can though... > > Bounce it. Ummmm... outside?!?!?! Absolutely, check these links http://www.lumiquest.com/lq871.htm http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Flash/Lighting&cat2=Flas h%20Accessories&cat3=Bounce%20/%20Diffusers%20for%20Small%20Flash http://www.photographic.com/phototechniques/132/index6.html > >> I do have a decent flash > >> that I attach to a stroboframe to avoid the red eye thing... I would [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ummmm... outside?!?!?! >>> I do have a decent flash >>> that I attach to a stroboframe to avoid the red eye thing... I would [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ummmm... outside?!?!?! Sure. In addition to the links from JME... 1. The gazebo doesn't have a roof? Or any walls (even if lattice)? 2. Does your flash head tilt? Tilt it up and use your free hand to hold a white card angled above it. 3. Men often wear white shirts. Grab one, have him open his jacket and bounce away. He can even hold the flash for you :) -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico I think you have a good range of suggestions above. While agree that flash will look artificial in some shots, remember it is a WEDDING. The couple and the relatives will not just want artistic images, they also want a record of what happened!! My additional advice would be to simply dial down the flash a little, maybe at -1 stop or even a little more, and maybe consider throwing a warming filter/gel over the flash to bring the light temperature down a little to match the ambient - but you should definitely experiment with this. The best weddings I ever shot were those where the shots-in-the-park/garden were taken just *before* sunset. |
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