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Standardized monitor setting procedure?

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Cleve - 26 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
I'm trying to find a standard procedure for setting a computer monitor
correctly for viewing digital photographs.  I've heard that Photoshop has an
elaborate procedure to do this, but I don't have that software.  Is there
some standard procedure I can find on the Net somewhere?

Thanks for any help.

--cleve
Larry CdeBaca - 26 Feb 2005 21:06 GMT
Anything free may or may not do the trick. My Google search for "monitor
calibration" turned up 93,000 hits. Do such a search yourself; you'll learn
more than if someone spoonfeeds you.
Also, try your monitor or video card manufacturer's web pages.

> I'm trying to find a standard procedure for setting a computer monitor
> correctly for viewing digital photographs.  I've heard that Photoshop has
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>
> --cleve
Cleve - 27 Feb 2005 04:32 GMT
> Anything free may or may not do the trick. My Google search for "monitor
> calibration" turned up 93,000 hits. Do such a search yourself; you'll
> learn more than if someone spoonfeeds you.

Right.  Tried that.  Got lost in all those entries that weren't quite what I
was looking for.

Thought I'd try a Group where people might specialize in such things.

I'm a little surprised that there's not an obvious standard, so that all
people can see digital photographs the way the photographer intended.  If
there's no standard, then viewing is subject to people's random monitor
settings.  I'm beginning to think that's the state of things (and that's a
shame).

> Also, try your monitor or video card manufacturer's web pages.

That's an idea.  I'll give it a shot.

Thanks.

--cleve
paul - 27 Feb 2005 06:33 GMT
>>Anything free may or may not do the trick. My Google search for "monitor
>>calibration" turned up 93,000 hits. Do such a search yourself; you'll
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> settings.  I'm beginning to think that's the state of things (and that's a
> shame).

I did the Adobe Gamma thingy & it really wasn't that tough. As I recall
there was really only two or three basic steps:

1. Set your gamma (middle grey point) to 2.2 Search for "gamma 2.2"
under google images & you will probably find a graphic that will assist
with this.

2. Set the color balance to (I think 6500K). There was also a tool to
compare grey squares & choose the more neutral, it was easy.

3. Adjust the contrast to the max where you can distinguish between
similar light tones and similar dark tones. This is the simplest &
easiest to find a chart to work from. clarkvision.com has this and other
web pages. I think this is the first thing to do and the most important.

I'm just working by memory but maybe it helps clarify and take the scary
factor out & give a clue what to look for.

>>Also, try your monitor or video card manufacturer's web pages.
>
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>
> --cleve
Marvin - 27 Feb 2005 16:40 GMT
>>Anything free may or may not do the trick. My Google search for "monitor
>>calibration" turned up 93,000 hits. Do such a search yourself; you'll
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> settings.  I'm beginning to think that's the state of things (and that's a
> shame).

There are rather elaborate and expensive procedures followed by photogrpahers and printers of items that are most sensitive,
such as art and fashion magazines.  People seem to be concerned about accurate color rendion on their photos since digital
photography came along, but mostly accepted what they got from film. I preferred certain films that I thought showed colors
accurately, not the intensified colors of Kodachrome.  And I stayed with processors that gave good results.

I like having the control, but I don't get obsessive about it.  And I sometimes deliberately distort colors for artistic effect.

How to set up the monitor and printer depends on what software you are using to edit and print your photos.  Tell us what
software you are using.

>>Also, try your monitor or video card manufacturer's web pages.
>
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>
> --cleve
Richard Tomkins - 27 Feb 2005 16:59 GMT
I recently installed the complete software package for an ATI card for a
colleague.
The ATI card came with an extensive and complete colour calibration
procedure.
Have you checked into the software that came with your Video Card?

rtt

> > Anything free may or may not do the trick. My Google search for "monitor
> > calibration" turned up 93,000 hits. Do such a search yourself; you'll
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>
> --cleve
chrlz@go.com - 27 Feb 2005 09:40 GMT
Try www.normankoren.com, especially:

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html
Cleve - 27 Feb 2005 19:38 GMT
Thanks for all the help, guys.  I knew there would be people in this group
who would know about this stuff.

This is a response to several of you (all in one place, so that I don't
clutter up the thread with individual responses).

====================

> I did the Adobe Gamma thingy & it really wasn't that tough. As I recall
> there was really only two or three basic steps:
>
> 1. Set your gamma (middle grey point) to 2.2 Search for "gamma 2.2" under
> google images & you will probably find a graphic that will assist with
> this.

I found a test where you set gamma visually by comparing a field of pixels
with RGB values of 127 to a field comprised of a checkerboard of pixels that
alternate between 0 and 255.  That seems to make sense.

> 2. Set the color balance to (I think 6500K). There was also a tool to
> compare grey squares & choose the more neutral, it was easy.
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> to find a chart to work from. clarkvision.com has this and other web
> pages. I think this is the first thing to do and the most important.

I've pretty much done these, but I still get the impression I'm missing
something.  I have two monitors that I've set with the same procedures --
and still, one of them just plain looks a lot brighter than the other.

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> There are rather elaborate and expensive procedures followed by
> photogrpahers and printers of items that are most sensitive, such as art
> and fashion magazines. ...

That's probably what I'd like to see (minus the "expensive" part).

> I like having the control, but I don't get obsessive about it.  And I
> sometimes deliberately distort colors for artistic effect.

Right.  I may indeed be getting too obsessive about it.

> How to set up the monitor and printer depends on what software you are
> using to edit and print your photos.  Tell us what software you are using.

Paintshop Pro 7.  (JASC has a procedure of moderate complexity on their web
site; I've been looking for something definitive.)

=====================================

>I recently installed the complete software package for an ATI card for a
> colleague.
> The ATI card came with an extensive and complete colour calibration
> procedure.
> Have you checked into the software that came with your Video Card?

One of my monitors has an ATI card (installed by Dell).  I don't see any
docs, but I'll try their site.

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<chrlz@go.com> wrote in message
news:1109497207.555114.262060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Try www.normankoren.com, especially:
>
> http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

Yes!  This looks promising (but I haven't read it in detail yet).

Thanks.

===========================

Again, thanks to all of you for your help.

--cleve
 
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