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ross - 28 Oct 2004 20:42 GMT
I am looking for a good legal guideline for taking photos. Do I need
permission to take a picture or is it a use issue only? Thank you, I
appreciate this newsgroup. Dick Ross
me - 29 Oct 2004 01:24 GMT
> I am looking for a good legal guideline for taking photos. Do I need
> permission to take a picture or is it a use issue only? Thank you, I
> appreciate this newsgroup. Dick Ross

There is no single guideline that will be applicable in all geographic
locations. Permission and use issues are dependent on the laws in your area.
Pros in your area would be the best source for answers to your questions. I
know that's probably not the answer you were hoping for but it's better than
a wrong answer that could get you into trouble.

Here is thread that illustrates my point to some degree:
news:10nlc3jff6f5l7e@corp.supernews.com
me
Digi-Reb - 29 Oct 2004 15:55 GMT
Something else to consider in light of the Homeland Security Act.

LUSBY, Md. -- Maryland State Police said a high-level Russian diplomat was
questioned and released after he was spotted photographing a liquefied
natural gas terminal on the waterfront in Calvert County.

More of same,....
http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=2212730&nav=23iiQBGj
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/23/arrest.videotape.ap/index.html
http://www.freep.com/news/locway/terror21_20030421.htm

> > I am looking for a good legal guideline for taking photos. Do I need
> > permission to take a picture or is it a use issue only? Thank you, I
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> news:10nlc3jff6f5l7e@corp.supernews.com
> me
ross - 29 Oct 2004 18:03 GMT
Thanks very much, I am doing some free lance for a small suburban newspaper
(44000 circ.) and am looking for the the legalese that may pertain to this
setting, I appreciate this newsgroup, Take care, Dick Ross

> Something else to consider in light of the Homeland Security Act.
>
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>> news:10nlc3jff6f5l7e@corp.supernews.com
>> me
me - 29 Oct 2004 20:38 GMT
> Thanks very much, I am doing some free lance for a small suburban newspaper
> (44000 circ.) and am looking for the the legalese that may pertain to this
> setting, I appreciate this newsgroup, Take care, Dick Ross

This link answers questions specific to your situation i.e. "what is fair
use":
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter12/12-b.html

If it's not to lengthy or difficult to explain could you please tell me how
you got your job with the newspaper?
Thank You
me
ross - 29 Oct 2004 21:09 GMT
Thanks, again, I appreciate all the advice and interest, I did indeed print
the article. To answer your query, I am in a series of photo and digital
imagery classes at the local school and needed to take photos. I asked the
local city parks and recreation if I could become their official
photographer at festivals and events and since I have been supplying them
with images for a number of years anyway, they "hired" me. Then I went the
local suburban paper and asked if they could use a free lancer to pick up
the slack on the weekends and I told them that I was at the events anyway
and they liked the idea. I totally understand Photoshop and use a digital
canon so I met their needs, I think. Pay is not much, but so far, I have had
some nice pics in the paper and some braggin' right. I hope this answers
your question and thanks for the help. Take care, Dick Ross

>> Thanks very much, I am doing some free lance for a small suburban
> newspaper
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> Thank You
> me
BillB - 29 Oct 2004 22:50 GMT
> If it's not to lengthy or difficult to explain could you please tell me how
> you got your job with the newspaper?
> Thank You
> me

 Employment discussions may well be OT in this newsgroup.

me too
Mike Kohary - 30 Oct 2004 08:17 GMT
>> If it's not to lengthy or difficult to explain could you please tell me how
>> you got your job with the newspaper?
>> Thank You
>> me
>
>  Employment discussions may well be OT in this newsgroup.

Photography employment = on-topic.  It *obviously* has to do with
photography.

This newsgroup is named alt.photography - I'd say that's pretty
general.  Lighten up.

Mike
BillB - 31 Oct 2004 22:24 GMT
> This newsgroup is named alt.photography - I'd say that's pretty
> general.  Lighten up.

 Whoops!  I thought I had sent a followup reply the other day but
it evidently went out as an email reply to the internet's bit
bucket.  Sorry 'bout that.  Below is my original reply, copied from
my archived copy:

> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:17:07 -0700, you wrote:
>
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> and it was entirely tongue-in-cheek.  Consider to whom it was made
> and why and the scales may fall from your eyes*.  :)

(and also note the "me too" sig. in my reply to "me")
Mike Kohary - 31 Oct 2004 22:45 GMT
>> This newsgroup is named alt.photography - I'd say that's pretty
>> general.  Lighten up.
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>
>(and also note the "me too" sig. in my reply to "me")

Ok, I was confoosed.  ;)

Mike
BillB - 01 Nov 2004 00:06 GMT
>>(and also note the "me too" sig. in my reply to "me")
>
> Ok, I was confoosed.  ;)

 Understandable, and easily misunderstood with a casual reading.  I
considered adding a smiley, but didn't think it fit here.  The "me
too" sig was a too subtle substitute.  Essentially, our complaints
were about the same thing. :)
Steve Barker - 31 Oct 2004 20:54 GMT
yeah, what MIKE said.

>> If it's not to lengthy or difficult to explain could you please tell me
>> how
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>
> me too
BillB - 31 Oct 2004 22:28 GMT
> yeah, what MIKE said.

Yeah?  Ok, and thanks for your reply, which alerted me to the fact
that my previously attempted reply failed to make it here, which may
(or may not) satisfy your indignation.
Hunt - 30 Oct 2004 02:38 GMT
>Thanks very much, I am doing some free lance for a small suburban newspaper
>(44000 circ.) and am looking for the the legalese that may pertain to this
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>>> news:10nlc3jff6f5l7e@corp.supernews.com
>>> me

For purely editorial use, you have to be concerned primarily about the
security issues involved. First thing you should do is establish proper
credentials and a membership in a national organization like ASMP will help.
Think about anything that might be considered as "infrastructure," before you
photograph it. You might want to check in with the local police department, so
they will know what you are doing. Even then, you might run into roadblocks,
and lack of knowledge. In this case, it is NOT easier to ask forgiveness,
rather than asking permission.

Hunt
 
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