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Special Ed - 25 Oct 2004 19:41 GMT
This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an
honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test features
an unlikely, completely fictional situation in which you will have to make a
decision. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous.
Please scroll down slowly and give due consideration to each line.

You are in Louisiana, in New Orleans to be specific. There is chaos all
around you caused by a fierce hurricane with severe flooding. This is a
flood of biblical proportions. You are a photojournalist working for a major
newspaper, and you're caught in the middle of this epic disaster.

The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making
photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing
under the water. Nature is unleashing all of its destructive fury.

Suddenly you see a woman in the water. She is fighting for her life, trying
not to be taken down with the debris. You move closer . . . somehow the
woman looks familiar. You suddenly realize who it is.

It's Hillary Clinton!

At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take her
under . . . forever.  You have two options--you can save the life of Hillary
Clinton, or you can shoot a dramatic Pulitzer Prize winning photo,
documenting the death of one of the world's most powerful women.

Here's the question, and please give an honest answer.

Would you select a richly saturated fine grain color film, or would you go
with the classic simplicity of high contrast black and white?

Edw.
RicSeyler - 25 Oct 2004 19:49 GMT
LOLOLOLOL Good one!

Now, I'd just call Bush and have him tell all of us caught in Ivan that
everything went just fine!  ;-)

My whole house was destroyed in Ivan, (Santa Rosa Island, Pensacola Beach)
and it might be over a year before we can get back to the island and a
normal life.
100% property damage and 85% inhabitable/condemned on my island...  it is an
unbelievable sight to see...... uggh

We got the worst of it, the eastern eyewall directly hit us.

Signature

Ric Seyler

David H. Lipman - 25 Oct 2004 22:14 GMT
Sorry to hear that Ric.

My sincerest hopes and wishes to you and yours in this troubling period that all will come
to a happy conclusion.

I live on the beach so I know the fear -- not the damage, YET !

Best 'O Luck !
                   Dave

| LOLOLOLOL Good one!
|
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
|
| We got the worst of it, the eastern eyewall directly hit us.
RicSeyler - 26 Oct 2004 16:23 GMT
>Sorry to hear that Ric.
>
>My sincerest hopes and wishes to you and yours in this troubling period that all will come
>to a happy conclusion.

Thanks David! Just another hump in the road of life, LOLOLOL

>I live on the beach so I know the fear -- not the damage, YET !
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>  

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RicSeyler - 25 Oct 2004 19:54 GMT
LOLOLOLOL Good one!

Now, I'd just call Bush and have him tell all of us caught in Ivan that
everything went just fine
and the storm didn't cause any problems! hehehe

My whole house was destroyed in Ivan, (Santa Rosa Island, Pensacola Beach)
and it might be over a year before we can get back to the island and a
normal life.
100% property damage and 85% inhabitable/condemned on my island...  it
is an
unbelievable sight to see...... uggh

We got the worst of it, the eastern eyewall directly hit us.

Signature

Ric Seyler

Michael - 26 Oct 2004 05:43 GMT
>and it might be over a year before we can get back to the island and a
>normal life.

So Ivan did blow all the poor and middle class people out of the state so
they can't vote.

>100% property damage and 85% inhabitable/condemned on my island...  it
>is an unbelievable sight to see...... uggh
>We got the worst of it, the eastern eyewall directly hit us.

So sorry to hear about that.  At least you are alive.  And have your
computer.

Best Wishes To You And Your Family,

Michael.....
RicSeyler - 26 Oct 2004 16:22 GMT
>  
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>they can't vote.
>  

LOLOLOLOL The Damn NeoCons and their Storms!!!! ;-)

>  
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So sorry to hear about that.  At least you are alive.  And have your
>computer.

Yea, and it's not like I'm the only one in this situation, I'm in the
majority. LOL
It's my Shop computer, my home puter went swimming in the Gulf. :-)

>Best Wishes To You And Your Family,
>
>Michael.....
>  

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Ric Seyler

me - 26 Oct 2004 04:50 GMT
OT troll go away.

> This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving an
> honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test features
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Edw.
D.R. - 29 Oct 2004 05:06 GMT
> OT troll go away.

Ahh.... alt.photography's newest vigilante law enforcement officer.

Sorry, we can't have any humor here folks. Nothing to see here, move right
along.
me - 29 Oct 2004 13:23 GMT
> > OT troll go away.
>
> Ahh.... alt.photography's newest vigilante law enforcement officer.

Not really. I guess I can assume that you agreed with Special Ed.

> Sorry, we can't have any humor here folks. Nothing to see here, move right
> along.

And I suppose you will now be trolling along behind me making making
provocative replies to my posts. Thank *you* for the humor.
me
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 13:35 GMT
>> > OT troll go away.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> provocative replies to my posts. Thank *you* for the humor.
> me

I am not provocative, just looking for facts.

Here is an update:

Latest news on Bulgegate, story evolving fast

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
The BULGEGATE story is evolving faster by the day.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Don't know the story? Get up to speed:

President Bush appeared to have a bulge on his back. Its been called
"Bulgegate" and the "The Bush Bulge" and it has appeared in all the of the
2004 Presidential debates. Now two wires have appeared and, as of today, no
explanation has been offered for that. The "bulge" has been called a "badly
tailored shirt" by the President -the same shirt in all 3 debates, mind you.

Rather than following up on the "3 bad shirts theory", it seems the media
accepts the President has a wardrobe full of them. Do we have a transmitter,
defibrillator, Wireless IV device, or something else?

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
In the last 48 hours we have the following developments:
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Salon.com has published an article on the same day I published an article
which points out photo enhancements and exposes a wire leading from the
bulge on the President's back.

Read both accounts here:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/index_np.html
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/ (test the theory for yourself!)

.....................................

Cannonfire has been very busy also, saying that "I have just received
private word from someone in a position to know that a former president also
used a "wire," in much the same way alleged in the case of G.W. Bush."

Read more here:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/presidential-precedent-new-info.html

.....................................

At BushWired you can get an even more detailed account of all the news and
see new photographic evidence posted today:

http://bushwired.blogspot.com/2004/10/few-fresh-updates-official-debunking.html#
comments


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
READ MORE HERE:

http://www.bushwired.blogspot.com/
http://www.bushbulge.com/ (send an automatic letter to the media)
http://www.puppetstring.blogspot.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/
http://isbushwired.com/
...
http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
...
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me - 29 Oct 2004 15:16 GMT
> >> > OT troll go away.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> I am not provocative,

In your humble opinion. But you are *WAY* OT, IMHO.

> just looking for facts.
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Read more here:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/presidential-precedent-new-info.html

> .....................................
>
> At BushWired you can get an even more detailed account of all the news and
> see new photographic evidence posted today:

http://bushwired.blogspot.com/2004/10/few-fresh-updates-official-debunking.html#
comments


''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''
> READ MORE HERE:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
> ...

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 15:25 GMT
>> >> > OT troll go away.
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 89 lines]
> ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> '''''''''''''''

You guys seem all the same:

YOU NEVER POST ON THE FACTS PRESENTED>>>

http://www.bulgegate.blogspot.com/
me - 29 Oct 2004 16:38 GMT
> >> >> > OT troll go away.
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> > transmitter,
> >> defibrillator, Wireless IV device, or something else?

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >> In the last 48 hours we have the following developments:

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

> >> Salon.com has published an article on the same day I published an article
> >> which points out photo enhancements and exposes a wire leading from the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >>
> > http://
cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/presidential-precedent-new-info.html

> >> .....................................
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >>
> > http://bushwired.blogspot.com/2004/10/few-fresh-updates-official-debunking.html#
comments

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> > '''''''''''''''
> >> READ MORE HERE:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> >> http://polit icalcommentator.blogspot.com/
> >> ...

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> > '''''''''''''''
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.bulgegate.blogspot .com/

What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 16:47 GMT
>> > "political commentator" <political.commentator@gmail.com> wrote in
> message
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
>
> What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.

Louder baby

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

READ MORE HERE:

http://www.bushwired.blogspot.com/
http://www.bushbulge.com/ (send an automatic letter to the media)
http://www.puppetstring.blogspot.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/
http://isbushwired.com/
...
http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
me - 29 Oct 2004 17:00 GMT
> > What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.
> > me
>
> Louder baby

OK F#CK OFF
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 17:07 GMT
>> > What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.
>> > me
>>
>> Louder baby
>
> OK F#CK OFF

Watch, another free link post.....

See, you must get so frustrated, but I have a voice too, and you know how
those republicans dont like free speech too much

Update 2: Latest news on Bulgegate, story evolving fast
Update 2: Latest news on Bulgegate, story evolving fast

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
The BULGEGATE story is evolving faster by the day.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Don't know the story? Get up to speed:

President Bush had a RECTANGULAR bulge on his back. Its been called
"Bulgegate" and the "The

Bush Bulge" and it has appeared in all the of the 2004 Presidential debates.
It has also

appeared in photos not related to the debates.  Now two wires have appeared
and, as of today,

no explanation has been offered for that. The "bulge" has been called a
"badly tailored shirt"

by the President -the same shirt in all 3 debates, mind you.

Rather than following up on the "3 bad shirts theory", it seems the media
accepts the President

has a wardrobe full of them. Do we have a transmitter, defibrillator,
Wireless IV device, or

something else?

Is there a wire or a health problem (Busk skipped his physical, even
mentioned he was healthy

in the debates).

Does he need an earpiece to debate 'his own' policies?

The "Seinfeld Democracy"
--------------------------------------------------------

- Who's that man with the box on his back?

- Oh, that's our president.

- What is it?

- We don't know. I mean -- we may or may not be able to know.

------------------------------------------------------------

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
In the last 48 hours we have the following developments:
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Salon.com has published an article on the same day I published an article
which points out

photo enhancements and exposes a wire leading from the bulge on the
President's back.

Read both accounts here:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/index_np.html
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/ (test the theory for yourself!)

Puppetstring has been updated with a comment I grabbed from Colin Green at:

http://www.journalscape.com/Colin/2004-10-29-11:02

"
If we follow this theory through the bulge would be the receiver/relayer,
the wire up the right

shoulder is to an inductance loop, perhaps in his collar, and it also looks
to me that there is

a wire travelling down his back, which would correspond to the wire seen
behind his tie. This

wire that we can see is actually quite prominent by way of its thickness,
say 5mm. Such

thickness would only normally be used to convey power - from a battery pack
somewhere on his

person, to the receiver on his back. Also note that the tie wire disappears
into the left hand

side of Bush's jacket - the same side as the wire seen down his lower back.
"
Goto and scroll to the bottom:

http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/2004/10/was-there-wire-behind-that-tie_23.html#
comments


.....................................

Cannonfire has been very busy also, saying that "I have just received
private word from someone

in a position to know that a former president also used a "wire," in much
the same way alleged

in the case of G.W. Bush."

Read more here:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/presidential-precedent-new-info.html

.....................................

At BushWired you can get an even more detailed account of all the news and
see new photographic

evidence posted today:

http://bushwired.blogspot.com/2004/10/few-fresh-updates-official-debunking.html#
comments


...................................................

We close with a comment from another bulge follower:

"

I've had a lot of people say -- "There's so many other policy issues to talk
about."

I explain to them that -- Just because it's not a policy issue, doesn't mean
it's not

important.  Health and leadership ability is just as important for the
electorate.
...

Also, a lot of people say -- "Why are you guys so angry about this?"
...

To combat this apathy about this story, I said:

Never have the lies been so obvious. Never has the lack of integrity in the
mainstream media

been so clear.
...

This "bulge" issue is symbolic of what American politics and democracy has
become.

A joke.
...

I'm hoping that something this blatantly obvious will get Americans to start
thinking about the

state in which the country is in.

1000's of people died for a war partly because the media didn't do it's job
and report the

whole truth.

Here, we have only ONE truth. A simple truth. Perhaps a very important truth
about the

character or health of a President. It's being hidden -- and the President
thinks we're fools!

It's uncluttered from politics -- you just need 2 eyes.

And yet the President says 2 + 2 = 5 and the U.S. media says, "Yes sir, it
is!"

"

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Something to remember:
http://img44.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img44&image=badtailor.jpg
READ MORE HERE:

http://www.bushwired.blogspot.com/
http://www.bushbulge.com/ (send an automatic letter to the media)
http://www.puppetstring.blogspot.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/
http://isbushwired.com/
...
http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 16:49 GMT
>> > "political commentator" <political.commentator@gmail.com> wrote in
> message
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
>
> What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.

And 2 can play at your game...  remember that.
me - 29 Oct 2004 17:04 GMT
> > What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.
> > me
>
> And 2 can play at your game...  remember that.

Indeed. I invite you.
me
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 17:16 GMT
>> > What part of OT do you not understand TROLL.
>> > me
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Indeed. I invite you.
> me

\
You must not be so busy at work today.

Update 2: Latest news on Bulgegate, story evolving fast
Update 2: Latest news on Bulgegate, story evolving fast

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
The BULGEGATE story is evolving faster by the day.
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Don't know the story? Get up to speed:

President Bush had a RECTANGULAR bulge on his back. Its been called
"Bulgegate" and the "The

Bush Bulge" and it has appeared in all the of the 2004 Presidential debates.
It has also

appeared in photos not related to the debates.  Now two wires have appeared
and, as of today,

no explanation has been offered for that. The "bulge" has been called a
"badly tailored shirt"

by the President -the same shirt in all 3 debates, mind you.

Rather than following up on the "3 bad shirts theory", it seems the media
accepts the President

has a wardrobe full of them. Do we have a transmitter, defibrillator,
Wireless IV device, or

something else?

Is there a wire or a health problem (Busk skipped his physical, even
mentioned he was healthy

in the debates).

Does he need an earpiece to debate 'his own' policies?

The "Seinfeld Democracy"
--------------------------------------------------------

- Who's that man with the box on his back?

- Oh, that's our president.

- What is it?

- We don't know. I mean -- we may or may not be able to know.

------------------------------------------------------------

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
In the last 48 hours we have the following developments:
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Salon.com has published an article on the same day I published an article
which points out

photo enhancements and exposes a wire leading from the bulge on the
President's back.

Read both accounts here:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/index_np.html
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/ (test the theory for yourself!)

Puppetstring has been updated with a comment I grabbed from Colin Green at:

http://www.journalscape.com/Colin/2004-10-29-11:02

"
If we follow this theory through the bulge would be the receiver/relayer,
the wire up the right

shoulder is to an inductance loop, perhaps in his collar, and it also looks
to me that there is

a wire travelling down his back, which would correspond to the wire seen
behind his tie. This

wire that we can see is actually quite prominent by way of its thickness,
say 5mm. Such

thickness would only normally be used to convey power - from a battery pack
somewhere on his

person, to the receiver on his back. Also note that the tie wire disappears
into the left hand

side of Bush's jacket - the same side as the wire seen down his lower back.
"
Goto and scroll to the bottom:

http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/2004/10/was-there-wire-behind-that-tie_23.html#
comments


.....................................

Cannonfire has been very busy also, saying that "I have just received
private word from someone

in a position to know that a former president also used a "wire," in much
the same way alleged

in the case of G.W. Bush."

Read more here:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/10/presidential-precedent-new-info.html

.....................................

At BushWired you can get an even more detailed account of all the news and
see new photographic

evidence posted today:

http://bushwired.blogspot.com/2004/10/few-fresh-updates-official-debunking.html#
comments


...................................................

We close with a comment from another bulge follower:

"

I've had a lot of people say -- "There's so many other policy issues to talk
about."

I explain to them that -- Just because it's not a policy issue, doesn't mean
it's not

important.  Health and leadership ability is just as important for the
electorate.
...

Also, a lot of people say -- "Why are you guys so angry about this?"
...

To combat this apathy about this story, I said:

Never have the lies been so obvious. Never has the lack of integrity in the
mainstream media

been so clear.
...

This "bulge" issue is symbolic of what American politics and democracy has
become.

A joke.
...

I'm hoping that something this blatantly obvious will get Americans to start
thinking about the

state in which the country is in.

1000's of people died for a war partly because the media didn't do it's job
and report the

whole truth.

Here, we have only ONE truth. A simple truth. Perhaps a very important truth
about the

character or health of a President. It's being hidden -- and the President
thinks we're fools!

It's uncluttered from politics -- you just need 2 eyes.

And yet the President says 2 + 2 = 5 and the U.S. media says, "Yes sir, it
is!"

"

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Something to remember:
http://img44.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img44&image=badtailor.jpg
READ MORE HERE:

http://www.bushwired.blogspot.com/
http://www.bushbulge.com/ (send an automatic letter to the media)
http://www.puppetstring.blogspot.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://bulgegate.blogspot.com/
http://isbushwired.com/
...
http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
brian - 29 Oct 2004 19:24 GMT
>> >> > OT troll go away.
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 89 lines]
> ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> '''''''''''''''

What I find sad and disturbing is that this has apparently taken headline
news over murder, rape, child abuse, famine, etc,
etc.....................who the hell cares. You don't honestly believe that
the president is actually incharge of the country anyway, do you?
I mean COME ON...............first its Jimmy Carter, then Ronald Reagan, now
Mickey Mouse....er I mean George bush Jr, and in the running for the next
term.............Jim Kerry,  he was good in dumb & dumber, but I though a
bit too smart for presidential material

Brian....................
political commentator - 29 Oct 2004 19:31 GMT
>>> >> > OT troll go away.
>>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 102 lines]
>
> Brian....................

I

The reason I care is because if he is proven a cheater he will lose millions
of votes.

That will end their hopes, and with good reason.  Its a terrible thing to do
to 60 m people watching.
C J Campbell - 26 Oct 2004 18:15 GMT
I would go with digital, myself.
Ivan - 27 Oct 2004 05:11 GMT
This is most hilarious!!
">
> Would you select a richly saturated fine grain color film, or would you go
> with the classic simplicity of high contrast black and white?
>
> Edw.
John & Debra - 29 Oct 2004 20:28 GMT
I'd go with the B&W

> This test only has one question, but it's a very important one. By giving
> an honest answer, you will discover where you stand morally. The test
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Edw.
 
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