> >I have just bought an Agfa Digital Camera which has a square white battery.
> >
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> true believer in Murphy's law and always, or almost always carries an extra
> battery and memory card. (The one time I didn't, cost me a bunch of shots.)
> I always have not one but 3 extra batteries, and not 2 but 4 battery
>chargers. But 2 weeks ago, it didn't cost me any shot but $65 for a Charger
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>make sure I have enough juice for the job. When I got there, I found out I
>forgot to pack the batteries and charger, but only 2 batteries on 2 cameras.
This is why I pointedly target buying stuff that uses AA/AAA or
charges via USB. I even have a USB charger for AA & AAA batteries.
These proprietary battery/charger deals make no sense to me.
Joel - 01 Jul 2009 19:01 GMT
> > I always have not one but 3 extra batteries, and not 2 but 4 battery
> >chargers. But 2 weeks ago, it didn't cost me any shot but $65 for a Charger
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> This is why I pointedly target buying stuff that uses AA/AAA or
> charges via USB. I even have a USB charger for AA & AAA batteries.
Well, if my camera requires AA/AAA betteries then I was in luck cuz I
didn't forget to tag along around 30 AA batteries and 2 chargers for my
flashes, and 8 AAA batteries for my portable speaker for my MP3.
> These proprietary battery/charger deals make no sense to me.
That's part of life and I have learned to accept and enjoy every part of
life, even most doesn't make much or no sense.
Charles E Hardwidge - 01 Jul 2009 20:21 GMT
>> I always have not one but 3 extra batteries, and not 2 but 4 battery
>>chargers. But 2 weeks ago, it didn't cost me any shot but $65 for a
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>
> These proprietary battery/charger deals make no sense to me.
I think, the idea is you get higher energy density and quality assurance but
I'm no fan of proprietary stuff that can be obsoleted even with the best of
intents. Proprietary batteries and raw have their advantages but open and
universal standards have less issues for me. Indeed, experience with patents
suggests that proprietary standards can hold markets and growth back.

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Wolfgang Weisselberg - 02 Jul 2009 00:33 GMT
Wayne R <wruffner@KomKast.net> wrote:
> This is why I pointedly target buying stuff that uses AA/AAA or
> charges via USB. I even have a USB charger for AA & AAA batteries.
> These proprietary battery/charger deals make no sense to me.
Trying to charge your electric car on a 5 Volt 0.1 Ampere ---
you only get 0.5 Amps if you *ask* for it and are *granted* the
higher load! --- USB charger will some day explain it all to you.
I've got a charger that crams 4 AA batteries (almost) full in about
15 minutes from fully empty. Agreed, that's not the recipe for the
longest possible life, but sometimes I need refilled batteries,
and lots of them, quickly. So I get 16 AA batteries filled in
about an hour. Your USB-charger takes at least 16 hours for that,
if it's perfect --- and probably won't watch each cell separately.
-Wolfgang
jones - 02 Jul 2009 04:37 GMT
My battery is a rechargeable, and a charger came as part of the package.
You mentioned USB charger - does that mean you plug in the charger to a USB
port (I am assuming when the computer is on?) and let it charge up that way?
Interesting idea.
Katherine
> This is why I pointedly target buying stuff that uses AA/AAA or
> charges via USB. I even have a USB charger for AA & AAA batteries.
>
> These proprietary battery/charger deals make no sense to me.
Wayne R. - 02 Jul 2009 19:01 GMT
>You mentioned USB charger - does that mean you plug in the charger to a USB
>port (I am assuming when the computer is on?) and let it charge up that way?
>
>Interesting idea.
>Katherine
It's an Eneloop charger:
<http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-01DxSaleX121309_AUCTION_-Sanyo-Eneloop-US
B-Charger-Bundle-with-2AA-New.htm>
jones - 03 Jul 2009 04:15 GMT
>>You mentioned USB charger - does that mean you plug in the charger to a
>>USB port (I am assuming when the computer is on?) and let it charge up
>>that way?
>>
>>Interesting idea.
>>Katherine
> It's an Eneloop charger:
>
> <http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2007-01DxSaleX121309_AUCTION_-Sanyo-Eneloop-US
B-Charger-Bundle-with-2AA-New.htm>
Does it charge the batteries (via USB port) while the computer is running?
Wayne R. - 03 Jul 2009 14:40 GMT
>>>You mentioned USB charger - does that mean you plug in the charger to a
>>>USB port (I am assuming when the computer is on?) and let it charge up
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>
>Does it charge the batteries (via USB port) while the computer is running?
Yes, both AA & AAA. Also, I put together a kit of wall-transformer USB
and cigarette-plug-USB chargers, along with a couple of cables for
cell, walkie-talkies & GPS. And special cables for my Sansa MP3 player
and Jawbone Bluetooth things.
So now I can charge all of my doodads from (running) laptop, wall or
car with just a small kit. (Some new laptops/netbooks will supply
voltage to the USB ports even when otherwise off - specifically to
charge stuff.)
One thing: If you want to charge a phone, make sure the chargers are
at least 1 amp (1000mA), otherwise they might not get the job done.
<http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-Eneloop-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B000XV
ZYXO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246627797&sr=8-9>
<http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Dual-USB-Car-Charger/dp/B000RYSU7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=U
TF8&s=electronics&qid=1246627832&sr=1-1>
<http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Dual-Wall-Charger-iPod/dp/B000SQYZE8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=
UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246627855&sr=1-4>
I got a La Crosse set as a gift, and it really is a fine charger too,
and it really babies the batteries to get the most juice into them. To
do that, it does it slowly, and so only really works from a wall.
Super nice but pretty geeky too.
<http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-BC-9009-AlphaPower-Battery/dp/B00077AA5Q
/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246628174&sr=1-1>