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Canon 10-22mm lens

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RahQ5@webtv.net - 18 Jun 2008 01:14 GMT
Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!
default - 18 Jun 2008 04:55 GMT
The lens is very good.  It is also now supported in Canon Digital Photo
Professional for the automatic lens aberration correction if you use it on a
supported camera body.  Distortions are very low, chromatic aberrations and
light fall-off are fairly minor.  If you use the automatic correction, that
pretty much takes care of it too or you can do it manually in Photoshop or
Adobe Camera RAW.

Be aware that it takes 77mm filters which cost a bit.  Remember to get the
hood.

Be aware that very thick polarizer filters (like the tamron C-PL filter)
vignette a little at 10mm.

Otherwise, enjoy!

> Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
> be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!
Vass - 18 Jun 2008 08:29 GMT
> Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
> be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!

yes, its blimmin expensive
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Joel - 18 Jun 2008 10:56 GMT
> Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
> be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!

    Expensive but good lens.
Robert Coe - 21 Jun 2008 12:56 GMT
: > Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
: > be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!
:
:     Expensive but good lens.

But is it enough better than the Sigma? A WA is on my wish list for next year
(this year it was a 50-150 f/2.8), and I don't want to have to go into hock to
get it.

Bob
Joel - 21 Jun 2008 17:45 GMT
> : > Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
> : > be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!
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>
> Bob

    As I have mentioned in other message that you can always check with
www.fredmiranda.com for the end users' feedbacks.
default - 21 Jun 2008 19:11 GMT
> But is it enough better than the Sigma? A WA is on my wish list for next
> year
> (this year it was a 50-150 f/2.8), and I don't want to have to go into
> hock to
> get it.

I've never used the Sigma 10-20.  They both go wide.  The Canon has the
larger aperture at f/3.5-4.5 which you might find nice.  Sigma is nice
enough to provide the hood and case without charging you extra like Canon
does.

However there is more to the cost of a lens than the purchase price.  You
have to consider the residual resale value.  If the Canon holds its value
better than the Sigma, you can sell it when you are done and recover most of
your money.  If you were particularly shrewd when purchasing it and bought
it for a very low price, used rebates, bought a Canon "refurbished" model,
took advantage of varying currency exchange rates over time etc, then you
might be able to sell it for as much as you paid for it and it would have
been free to use.  The same might be true of the Sigma, but often it seems
that Sigma lenses depreciate more than Canon lenses.

Before buying either, have a look around at the price that both lenses go
for used and see which would really cost you less.
Marcin - 18 Jun 2008 20:37 GMT
Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but quite
good

Best Regards
Martin Gorgolewski
www.gorgolewski.com

> Any thoughts on this lens? Any unforeseen problems at all that I might
> be concerned with, if I get one? Thanks!
rwalker - 18 Jun 2008 23:47 GMT
> Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but quite
> good
>
> Best Regards
> Martin Gorgolewski
> www.gorgolewski.com

I know some people really don't like the Sigmas, but I have one and I've
been very happy with it.  (Can't afford the Canon.)
Joel - 19 Jun 2008 11:21 GMT

> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but quite
> > good
>
> I know some people really don't like the Sigmas, but I have one and I've
> been very happy with it.  (Can't afford the Canon.)

    I don't own the Sigma 10-20mm but I have read many people like it, and the
images they capture look real nice to me.
Vass - 19 Jun 2008 15:29 GMT
>> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but
>> > quite
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> I don't own the Sigma 10-20mm but I have read many people like it, and the
> images they capture look real nice to me.

holding around £ 250 with postage on eBay (non Hong Kong)
approx 4 to 5 per week sell regularly.
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Joel - 19 Jun 2008 18:45 GMT
> >> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but
> >> > quite
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> holding around £ 250 with postage on eBay (non Hong Kong)
> approx 4 to 5 per week sell regularly.

    It's around 450-500 US$ so it's about right. comparing to around 800US$
for the Canon 10-22mm (300US$ more expensive), and I don't think the picture
is twice better.
Peter - 20 Jun 2008 00:18 GMT
>> >> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but
>> >> > quite
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> picture
> is twice better.

What Ken Rockwell has to say:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm

Yes, I know he talks about Nikon, but his comments on the Sigma are helpful
and here's his comment on the Canon:
The Canon 10 - 22 mm is better than any of these four lenses, including the
Nikon.

"What makes the Canon so superior is its vanishing low distortion. What
little distortion the Canon has is completely fixable in PhotoShop CS2. The
Canon also has a wider zoom ratio than any of the Nikon, Tamron, Sigma or
Tokina lenses."
-more online-

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Joel - 20 Jun 2008 20:04 GMT
> >> >> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but
> >> >> > quite
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> Tokina lenses."
> -more online-

    If I look for information of lens I usually look for end users feedbacks
on www.fredmiranda.com or www.photo.net instead of review.  Also, I do have
Canon, Sigma, Tamron lens and I tell that from the lens I have the Canon is
usually quicker focus, warmer tone, when Sigma and Tamron may have some
color issue (color casting) which can be corrected with Photoshop.

    BTW, since I am not a landscape photographer so 17-50mm is the widest lens
I have, and the wide angle can be very handy.
Robert Coe - 21 Jun 2008 13:07 GMT
: >> >> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper but
: >> >> > quite
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: The Canon also has a wider zoom ratio than any of the Nikon, Tamron,
: Sigma or Tokina lenses."

By only 2mm at the high end, and almost everybody has a walking-around lens
that bottoms out below 20mm.

Bob
Joel - 21 Jun 2008 17:47 GMT
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> : What Ken Rockwell has to say:
> : http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Bob

    Well, if you just compare the "20mm" with "22mm" then you are 100% correct
that it's "2mm" difference between them two.  But you look beyond the 2mm
difference then you may find other differences.
Peter - 21 Jun 2008 20:42 GMT
> : >> >> > Try to compare with Sigma 10-20 f/4.0-5.6 EX DC HSM - is cheaper
> but
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>
> Bob

When you deal with wide angle, each mm becomes significant.
I am seriously thinking about the Nikon 10.5 whichis only 1.5 mm more than I
have.

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Robert Coe - 22 Jun 2008 13:01 GMT
: > : What Ken Rockwell has to say:
: > : ...
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: I am seriously thinking about the Nikon 10.5 which is only 1.5 mm more
: than I have.

At the low end, what you say is true, of course. But my point is that if you
have a decent 18-50mm lens (and most serious SLR users do), it doesn't
particularly matter whether your wide-angle lens goes to 20mm or 22mm on its
high end, because both ranges overlap your 18-50.

Bob
 
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