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Warren Thai - 19 May 2008 10:18 GMT
simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
and how do you use it?
thanks
-Warren
Joel - 19 May 2008 14:27 GMT
> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
> and how do you use it?
> thanks
> -Warren

    I have no idea what White Balance Lens Cap is.  So I would say if you
don't know what it's then I would suggest to spend more time to improve what
you know and want to know more.
tony cooper - 19 May 2008 15:11 GMT
>> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
>> and how do you use it?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>don't know what it's then I would suggest to spend more time to improve what
>you know and want to know more.

Which seems to me exactly what the guy is doing.  He knows,
presumably, that it is sometimes advantageous to pre-set the white
balance and he's spending some time to improve his knowledge on how to
do it.

What he needs to do is spend the first of his time on Google.
Questions like this are answered by Googling quicker and more
completely than posting the question in a newsgroup.  In a newsgroup,
you get people who don't know the answer to the question, but post
useless replies like yours.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Joel - 19 May 2008 18:39 GMT
> >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
> >> and how do you use it?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> you get people who don't know the answer to the question, but post
> useless replies like yours.

    You don't have to worry about me, but posting your knowledge here so we
all can benefit from you instead of sucking the juice out of me.

    Now, just start by telling what the "white balance lens cap" is.
Usenet Police - 19 May 2008 19:18 GMT
> Now, just start by telling what the "white balance lens cap" is.

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David Schloss. PDN (Photo District News), December 2005.
Even the best digital cameras are incapable of consistently delivering
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The ExpoDisc is far easier to use than any gray card, white card or
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tony cooper - 19 May 2008 19:43 GMT
>> >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
>> >> and how do you use it?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>    Now, just start by telling what the "white balance lens cap" is.

I gave him the search term to determine this.  There are several
different brands of white balance caps, and they range from free (make
one yourself) to very expensive.  He's better off viewing some of the
web sites to learn what each one does and why it is better (according
to the manufacturer).

I can copy/paste from some of the sites, but there are too many
different types to make this useful.  Someone cut/pasted info on the
Expodisc.  That's one, but it's almost $100. Others are available for
much less, but they are not necessarily less useful.

But, knowing that you are too lazy to Google, it's a cap that fits
over the end of the lens, or is held at the end of the lens,  and it
allows you set a custom white balance for the session's shooting
according to the lighting conditions for the session.

Some feel it's easier to use than a white card, or at least more
convenient to carry.  

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

The One - 20 May 2008 09:05 GMT
>> >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do
>> >> with it?
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Now, just start by telling what the "white balance lens cap" is.

Joel is a classic fucknut.
Robert Coe - 25 May 2008 01:03 GMT
: >> >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do
: >> >> with it?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
:
: Joel is a classic fucknut.

Translation: "The One" doesn't know what it is either.
Frank Arthur - 19 May 2008 18:13 GMT
>> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do
>> with it?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> improve what
> you know and want to know more.

A person asks: " what is a white balance lens cap?"
Only a wiseacre or an  idiot would respond to a question with "I have
no idea what White Balance Lens Cap is".
Robert Coe - 25 May 2008 01:12 GMT
: A person asks: " what is a white balance lens cap?"
: Only a wiseacre or an  idiot would respond to a question with "I have
: no idea what White Balance Lens Cap is".

Well, no, I think you could interpret that answer as meaning something like:
"I know pretty much everything there is to know about photography. So if I
don't know the answer, probably nobody else here does either, and you have no
choice but to RTFM."  ;^)

Bob
The One - 20 May 2008 09:05 GMT
> I have no idea what White Balance Lens Cap is.  So I would say if you
> don't know what it's then I would suggest to spend more time to improve
> what
> you know and want to know more.

This rates as number 1 dumbest reply I have ever seen.
Brazingo - 21 May 2008 12:11 GMT
> > I have no idea what White Balance Lens Cap is.  So I would say if you
> > don't know what it's then I would suggest to spend more time to improve
> > what
> > you know and want to know more.
>
> This rates as number 1 dumbest reply I have ever seen.

and the reason I don't read and answer blogs.  I am done with this one
now also.
Usenet Police - 22 May 2008 05:44 GMT
In article
<fd705878-1e71-42dc-89d3-1f4693a42b28@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,

> and the reason I don't read and answer blogs.  I am done with this one
> now also.

We don't care. We don't care which of the over 100,000 existing
newsgroups you choose to read. No one cares, in fact.

And please, before making another stunning display of your ignorance,
learn the difference between the terms "blog" and "Usenet".

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A blog (short for "Web Log") is information that is instantly published
to a Web site. Blog scripting allows someone to automatically post
information to a Web site. Typically the information first goes to a
blogger Web site. Then the information is automatically inserted into a
template tailored for your Web site.
Blogs are propagated using the Hypertext Transfer Protocol, or HTTP.

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Usenet:
(USEr NETwork) A public access network on the Internet that provides
user news and group e-mail. It is a giant, dispersed bulletin board that
is maintained by volunteers who provide news and mail feeds to other
nodes. All the news that travels over the Internet is called "NetNews,"
and a running collection of messages about a particular subject is
called a "newsgroup."

Usenet began in 1979 as a bulletin board between two universities in
North Carolina. Today, there are more than 100,000 newsgroups, and news
can be read with popular newsreader applications such as News Rover or
via venerable Unix-based utilities such as pine, tin and nn. Usenet is
propagated using the Network News Transfer Protocol, or NNTP.
tony cooper - 19 May 2008 14:39 GMT
>simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
>and how do you use it?
>thanks

Google is your friend.  Just Google the term "white balance lens cap"
and you'll find many articles and ads.  They range from $5.95 to over
$100, and you'll find tips on making your own from household objects.

Basically, it's an opaque disk you hold over the end of the lens to
set your white balance if you have a camera that allows you set a
manual white balance.  Similar to using a card except the card is held
at a distance.  

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Garry Douglas - 19 May 2008 17:20 GMT
>>simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
>>it?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> manual white balance.  Similar to using a card except the card is held
> at a distance.

Sounds very similar in concept to the translucent plastic domes that were
available a few years ago (and possibly still are) that slipped over the
front of a lens and allowed you to use a SLR's TTL meter to take incident
light readings.
krishnananda - 19 May 2008 14:40 GMT
> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with it?
> and how do you use it?
> thanks
> -Warren

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=white+balance+lens
+cap&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Peter - 20 May 2008 01:02 GMT
>> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
>> it?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=white+balance+lens
> +cap&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I have rarely seen http://www.tinyurl.com used. It allows you to turn long
urls into small ones. The small ones persist. Best of all it is free and
after you have made the tiny url just hit ctrl +v.

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Robert Coe - 25 May 2008 01:17 GMT
: >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
: >> it?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
: urls into small ones. The small ones persist. Best of all it is free and
: after you have made the tiny url just hit ctrl +v.

Truly an ingenious concept. Its only drawback, in my experience, is that it
rarely works.
Peter - 25 May 2008 01:32 GMT
<> :  I have rarely seen http://www.tinyurl.com used. It allows you to turn
long
> : urls into small ones. The small ones persist. Best of all it is free and
> : after you have made the tiny url just hit ctrl +v.
>
> Truly an ingenious concept. Its only drawback, in my experience, is that
> it
> rarely works.

My experience is the opposite.
However, there is nothing to stop you from using both.
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Blinky the Shark - 25 May 2008 04:32 GMT
> : >> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
> : >> it?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Truly an ingenious concept. Its only drawback, in my experience, is that it
> rarely works.

Interesting.  I've never seen it *not* work.  And I use it plenty.

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Wilson - 25 May 2008 11:01 GMT
>> On Mon, 19 May 2008 20:02:20 -0400, "Peter"
>> <peternew@nospamoptonline.net>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Interesting.  I've never seen it *not* work.  And I use it plenty.

Same here.  I'd say it was pretty near fool proof.
wilson - 20 May 2008 14:30 GMT
> simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
> it? and how do you use it?
> thanks
> -Warren

This is a device you can place in front of the digital camera lens and use
to get preset a white balance as a reference point.  Instructions for
getting the preset are in the owner's manual for your camera.  The device I
sometimes use is the translucent plastic cap that comes, or used to come, on
a tube of Pringles potato chips.  It's a handy item and it's free if you eat
the chips.  You could also use a white or grey card or object.  If I'm
shooting in Raw I usually don't bother with presets since the auto white
balance mode generally seems to be pretty much right on for the outdoor
photography I do.

I guess it would be fair to say I am not willing to pay $69.95 for such a
device.
Joel - 20 May 2008 15:59 GMT

> > simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
> > it? and how do you use it?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I guess it would be fair to say I am not willing to pay $69.95 for such a
> device.

    About a year ago I have read about the device and the web page mentions it
does everything automatically, and better than greycard etc.  and about
greycard and RAW, I have greycard but don't bother to use cuz I don't have
the time to use on all shots, and RAW isn't the magical or if you won't mind
the trouble then I am very sure that you can benefit from greycard no matter
using RAW or COOKED.

    Cuz RAW has nothing to do with grey card, and it can give a good result.
Yup!  I paid almost $50 for mine but don't use.
wilson - 20 May 2008 16:58 GMT
>> > simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
>> > it? and how do you use it?
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Cuz RAW has nothing to do with grey card, and it can give a good result.
> Yup!  I paid almost $50 for mine but don't use.

I agree.  I have a histogram on my digital camera so why should I mess with
a grey card or even screw around with an exposure meter to get the exposure
right.  Reading the histogram and highlight blinky screen is much quicker
for me in most cases.

COOKED is good, but RAW is more better.
Robert Peirce - 20 May 2008 17:28 GMT
> > > simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
> > > it? and how do you use it?
> > > thanks
> > > -Warren

I have got good results just using a white coffee filter and a rubber
band, but usually I don't worry about it unless the light is pretty
strange.  For RAW, I use a WhiBal card, which is dead accurate for the
light you are shooting, plus it gives you a white and black point for
reference.  It works great with LightZone.

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Robert Coe - 25 May 2008 01:24 GMT
:  
: > > simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
:     About a year ago I have read about the device and the web page mentions it
: does everything automatically, and better than greycard etc. ...

Hey, WTF?? Didn't you just tell the OP that you don't know what a WB cap is?
Joel - 25 May 2008 02:32 GMT
> :  
> : > > simple questions: what is a white balance lens cap? what do you do with
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Hey, WTF?? Didn't you just tell the OP that you don't know what a WB cap is?

    Stick the WFT into your mouth, hold your breath and listen <bg>  I read
about the device someone metioned *but* I still don't know WTF the WB cap
is.
 
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