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colin parsnip - 16 May 2008 08:02 GMT

So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over a
400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a lot).
I *think* I need a couple of spare batteries (as I could be up to 10 days
away from electricity).

What's the difference between the NB-2L and the NB-2LH

How much difference is there between the Canon battery and clones - there's
certainly a price difference - about 1000%...

Thanks

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Chris H - 16 May 2008 12:56 GMT

>So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over a
>400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a lot).
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>How much difference is there between the Canon battery and clones - there's
>certainly a price difference - about 1000%...

There are solar powered charging solutions you might want to look at.
There is at least one day sack that has photo cell panels on it.

I am sure there will be some one who does a charger that would be
powered from the push bike?

Worth looking at because no matter how many batteries you have THE SHOT
always comes just as the last one dies. :-)

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Peter - 16 May 2008 13:10 GMT

> So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over
> a 400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a
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> How much difference is there between the Canon battery and clones -
> there's certainly a price difference - about 1000%...

I am not familiar with Canon batteries, but as a matter of prudence I trust
the quality control provided by the manufacturer. Even though there is a
large price difference, can the difference equal the cost of your trip or
the importance of your shots. With a battery you want reliability and little
latent leakage. It boils down to are you willing to take a risk?

YMMV

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Joel - 16 May 2008 15:40 GMT

> > So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over
> > a 400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a
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>
> YMMV

I dunno about you and your risk, but I don't believe there are battery
manufactures for each individual battery operate item. So, there may be
some better or worse battery manufacture's, but not many of them to risk
your hard earned $$$$ for the same thing.

Few years ago, the battery of HP laptop got recalled because it can
explode. So, YES it's fine to pay extra for a pieace of mind and help with
the economy, but in other hand it's safed to save quite a bit of $$$$ and
still can enjoy the saving and good photos too.

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Peter - 16 May 2008 16:37 GMT

> I dunno about you and your risk, but I don't believe there are battery
> manufactures for each individual battery operate item. So, there may be
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> the economy, but in other hand it's safed to save quite a bit of $$$$ and
> still can enjoy the saving and good photos too.

You may be lucky. I agree that there are not many battery manufacturers.
However, most do random testing from production batches. As a result of the
testing batteries are classified and the highest grades usually are sold
with the OEM label.
Those not sold with that label are sold to others. Yes, you may get an off
brand that is excellent. It's a risk I prefer not to take.

In the HP case you mentioned, this article may interest you.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/19/50OPreality_1.html

I prefer to gamble at the casinos where I know the odds.

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Joel - 16 May 2008 19:02 GMT

> > I dunno about you and your risk, but I don't believe there are battery
> > manufactures for each individual battery operate item. So, there may be
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> Those not sold with that label are sold to others. Yes, you may get an off
> brand that is excellent. It's a risk I prefer not to take.

I have been using third party battery, drum and toner for my laser
printers for ages (I had my first laser printer over 20 years ago), and so
far I have no problem with any third party batteries and toner etc.. matter
fact, I just upgraded my older laser printer with network multi-function
laser printer which comes with toner has around 4-6K paper, so the first
thing I did is to get a 3rd part toner with 16-20K pages (I don't remember
the exact number but more/less 20K)

> In the HP case you mentioned, this article may interest you.
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/19/50OPreality_1.html

Have you realized that the link above is the article in 2003, and I am
talking about the newer on (I heard on Radio and TV) in around 2006 or early
2007 or so.

> I prefer to gamble at the casinos where I know the odds.

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colin parsnip - 16 May 2008 20:17 GMT

Thanks for your comments guys, seems like the jury is out for a definitive
answer.

I had a look on Amazon, and:

Canon NB-2LH is £36,
Powerplanet equivalent is £4.50, with £4.50 postage (and seemingly good
customer reviews)

I think I may go for two of the latter.

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Peter - 17 May 2008 00:38 GMT

>> > I dunno about you and your risk, but I don't believe there are battery
>> > manufactures for each individual battery operate item. So, there may
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> thing I did is to get a 3rd part toner with 16-20K pages (I don't remember
> the exact number but more/less 20K)

A place I consult for uses 3rd party also. They have had some awful
production tie-ups and toner spill incidents. I doubt the money they save is
worth the down time, but they are convinced they save money.

>> In the HP case you mentioned, this article may interest you.
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/19/50OPreality_1.html
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> early
> 2007 or so.

Yes.
Just thought it would provide an explanation of why batteries explode.

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Joel - 17 May 2008 04:13 GMT

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> > I have been using third party battery, drum and toner for my laser
> > printers for ages (I had my first laser printer over 20 years ago), and so
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> production tie-ups and toner spill incidents. I doubt the money they save is
> worth the down time, but they are convinced they save money.

It sounds like you are one of few lucky customers who got some type of
defected toner or whatever, cuz even I am a very average user with no
experience with toner-refill or just for personal use, I have refilled
several toners and never had any spill issue. Or I dunno if there is much
or any difference between original and 3rd party besides the brand and $$$,
cuz the toner should be inside a well sealed tube with very tiny space at
the roller to have spilling problem.

Unless you are talking about a giant copier uses in some big manufacture
that you just dump couple gallons of toner to a big basket.

> >> In the HP case you mentioned, this article may interest you.
> >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/19/50OPreality_1.html
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> Yes.
> Just thought it would provide an explanation of why batteries explode.

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Robert Coe - 17 May 2008 19:48 GMT

: Few years ago, the battery of HP laptop got recalled because it can
: explode. So, YES it's fine to pay extra for a pieace of mind and help with
: the economy, but in other hand it's safed to save quite a bit of $$$$ and
: still can enjoy the saving and good photos too.

That battery recall eventually extended to Dell and one or two other computer
manufacturers. IIRC, the battery manufacturer was, in all cases, Sony.

Bob

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Joel - 17 May 2008 22:23 GMT

> : Few years ago, the battery of HP laptop got recalled because it can
> : explode. So, YES it's fine to pay extra for a pieace of mind and help with
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>
> Bob

Yup! I do remember hearing that those batteries made by Sony, but not 100%
sure.

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Chris H - 17 May 2008 22:37 GMT

>: Few years ago, the battery of HP laptop got recalled because it can
>: explode. So, YES it's fine to pay extra for a pieace of mind and help with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>That battery recall eventually extended to Dell and one or two other computer
>manufacturers. IIRC,

This included Apple MAC's

AFAIK all the batteries were replaced FOC

> the battery manufacturer was, in all cases, Sony.

Ironically Sony used different batteries in their laptops!

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Al Dykes - 17 May 2008 00:46 GMT

>So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over a
>400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a lot).
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>
>Thanks

There are crappy batteries coming from Asia and LiON batteries can
catch fire and/or explode. I'd buy 3rd party batteries from dealers
that have a reputation to maintain but I wouldn't buy them over eBay,
for instance.

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Robert Coe - 17 May 2008 19:41 GMT

: So, following my posting a while back and a long think I bought a G9 over a
: 400D (primarily down to the size - I'll be taking it walking/cycling a lot).
: I *think* I need a couple of spare batteries (as I could be up to 10 days
: away from electricity).
:
: What's the difference between the NB-2L and the NB-2LH

The NB-2L is powerful enough to use in a Powershot S50, but not in a 400D.
Since we have both types of camera in our house, I pay attention to such
things!

: How much difference is there between the Canon battery and clones - there's
: certainly a price difference - about 1000%...

The clones that B&H sells are actually a bit more powerful than the NB-2LH and
are much cheaper. (But not by nearly as much as you claim above - knock a zero
off of that number.) Do they last as long? Who cares? You can compensate by
buying more of them and still come out ahead.

Bob

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