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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / General Topics / May 2008Is this a real picture or CGI?
Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine new car not good enough anymore? http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ No, it's not. Advertising execs are all pressured to put pizz-azz on the fast burn cycle. This way, they can lie as much as they want to without so many people noticing. CGI gimmicks, cartoon drawings, etc - anything but the honest truth. It's all so disgusting to me I no longer pay any attention because if I wanted to be lied to, I coulda stayed married.  Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' >Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to CGI = Common Gateway Interface? >have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine >new car not good enough anymore? > >http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > > CGI = Common Gateway Interface? Computer Generated Imagery Signaturethepixelfreak >>> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >> >> CGI = Common Gateway Interface? > >Computer Generated Imagery Thanks. Those TLAs are really confusing. jue > >>> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > jue TDS (TLA Disambiguation Service) CGI CGI may mean: € Cape Girardeau Regional Airport (IATA airport code: CGI) in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, United States € Catholic Guides of Ireland, a girl guide association € Cell Global Identify, unique identifier of a cell site in cellular networks such as GSM and UMTS € CGI Group, an information technology and business process services company. € Consultative Group on Indonesia, a former gathering of donors to the Indonesian government. € CGI Records, a Gospel music record label. € CGI-IUGS, Commission for the Management and Application of Geoscience Information. A commission of the International Union of Geological Sciences. € CGI.pm, a Perl module used for dealing with Common Gateway Interface € Championship Gaming Invitational, a Video Game tournament themed show shown on DirecTV € Clinical Global Impression, a scale to assess treatment response associated with mental disorders € Clinton Global Initiative, a forum created by former President Bill Clinton to discuss global problems € Coast Guard Intelligence, the intelligence branch of the United States Coast Guard. € Common Gateway Interface, a technology used in web servers to delivery dynamic content € Computer graphics interface, a low-level interface between the Graphical Kernel System and the hardware € Computer-generated imagery, application of computer graphics to special effects in films, television programs, etc. € Corrugated Galvanised Iron, molded sheet-metal € Cuerpo Guardia de Infantería, an Argentine police riot control service € Stratified Charged Gasoline Injection, a gasoline direct injection by the German automobile and truck manufacturer DaimlerChrysler for Spark-ignition-Engines € compacted graphite iron used for engines. >>>>> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >>>> CGI = Common Gateway Interface? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > TDS (TLA Disambiguation Service) I have a friend that spent some time in the military and across his desk used to come paper work stamped "UNA". What did "UNA" stand for? Why, "use no abbreviations", of course. Jeff > CGI > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Spark-ignition-Engines > € compacted graphite iron used for engines. > I have a friend that spent some time in the military and across his > desk used to come paper work stamped "UNA". What did "UNA" stand for? > Why, "use no abbreviations", of course. > > Jeff Sure, but SNAFU is always in force so no stamp is needed for it. >>>>>> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >>>>> CGI = Common Gateway Interface? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >desk used to come paper work stamped "UNA". What did "UNA" stand for? >Why, "use no abbreviations", of course. In the UK military we had a term "unserviceable" that was abbreviated to "US" . For a period I was in on a base shared with American personnel. Who were always slightly miffed that al our broken kit was labelled "US" Signature\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ Air brushed by the look of it. There'll be a picture of a car somewhere under the effects. SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >> have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > There'll be a picture of a car somewhere under the effects. Looks CGI to me because it is so distorted, even more than a wide angle lens, no? I am like so ignorant about this that if I'm right it will be an accident. Imo, that is an ugly car. > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ I feel sorry for you, and for anyone else who gives a good goddamn. It's an ad, you fuckwit. -- YOP... In article <ffda67cc-fb55-4cc8-aae8-78487af0871e@ 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doc docsavage20@yahoo.com says... > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ It wouldn't really be right for the Matrix to be anything other than CGI, would it? >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >> have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine >> new car not good enough anymore? >> >> http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ >It wouldn't really be right for the Matrix to be anything other than >CGI, would it? ## SPLORF ## Two points, and a gold star on your term paper, sir! SignatureDave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ It's a real photo that's been dodged and burned. It looks like the top surfaces have been burned in. The rest is just superb lighting. The way it is lit is just stunning. Take a look at the catch lights and the shadowing and you'll see that the lighting is very simple, but it's some of the best modeling I've ever seen. You can really feel the three curves of it. It appears to be one longish softbox almost directly overhead. A bit of fill to soften the shadows. Jeff >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >> have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jeff You are probably right. You see the reflection of the softbox in the car windows, plus the reflection of a couple of spots on the front of the car. Subtractive shadowing around the floor. The color has been carefully calibrated to match an actual Matrix. One shot, no Photoshop. It could easily be the work of Claude Jodoin or one of his students. He does this sort of thing, although his i2i Studio has become more oriented toward wedding and portrait photography. Claude does not dodge and burn much (though he certainly might have here) but instead uses an enormous collection of Scrim Jim panels to both highlight and screen light where he wishes. There are also rental studios in Detroit and elsewhere that have these 20 foot long softboxes suspended from the ceiling. You drive the car (or other large object, even an airplane) right through the big doors of the studio. The softbox is suspended from beams and can be easily moved in any direction or tilted as needed. SignatureWaddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor yes, you are right, my opinion is exactly the same, it's a real photos but burned and dodged with strong color variations, I take pictures of cars for catalog and often use similar techniques. There are a few details which are helpful to recognize is it CGI or photo (eg. front light or wheels) Best Regards Martin www.gorgolewski.com >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to >> have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jeff > yes, you are right, my opinion is exactly the same, > it's a real photos but burned and dodged with strong color variations, > I take pictures of cars for catalog and often use similar techniques. Yes, I see. Some very nice work in there. > There are a few details which are helpful to recognize is it CGI or photo > (eg. front light or wheels) Can you elaborate on that a bit... I find some of the comments in this thread interesting. The automatic assumption has been that it's all CGI and is no longer photography, and then a bit of sniffing... Photography has a long history of superb lighting. When you look at photography from the 20's you can see that lighting was well developed by then. I think we've gotten away from the techniques of lighting and just assume it was all created digitally. I look at this and try to figure out how it is done, not that I will be shooting such stuff, but it should be something every photographer should do. Craft should be something we all care about. Jeff > Best Regards > Martin [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Jeff > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems like good guesses. > Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? No, and it never has been. Photo manipulation is as old as photography itself, both post and pre-production. Nature of the beast, I'm afraid. Usually, I think, the goal is to express what the shooter feels as much as sees. "Reality" often falls a tad short of doing that. AAR, chances are good the basis of the image was directly related to the cost of production. Scan a artist rendering; CGI it = no location or studio shoot. > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ ----- - gpsman >> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >photography itself, both post and pre-production. Nature of the >beast, I'm afraid. A older photographer I talked to told me that he used to have cars wiped down with kerosene before shooting them for car ads. It gave the surface a "wet look". SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>> Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wiped down with kerosene before shooting them for car ads. It gave > the surface a "wet look". Plus, if you didn't have enough light in the studio, you could just strike a match! > A older photographer I talked to told me that he used to have cars > wiped down with kerosene before shooting them for car ads. It gave > the surface a "wet look". It used to be done with food all the time SignaturePeter Don't eat the props > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ Check the original negative and compare it to the finished print. It could be either. CGI is very common in automotive photography now-a-days and with big budgets, are done very well by truly amazing artists. It's actually closer to movie production than still photography. For me though, this image looks more photography than CGI, compared to a lot other photos I have seen. But you never know, because at the end of the day, the final image has to look like a real product whether GC or Photoshopped. > Looks to me either like CGI or extremely enhanced by CGI. Seems to > have a sort of "plasic" patina to it. Is an actual photo of a pristine > new car not good enough anymore? > > http://www.toyota.com/matrix/ |
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