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Do all Canon FD lenses fit the A1?

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Graham - 04 May 2008 15:35 GMT
I am trying to buy a lens for my old Canon A1 and not sure if I can just buy
any Canon FD lens. Could someone confirm, will any Canon FD lens fit my
Canon A1? I was about to buy a Canon 50mm f1.4 FD lens from ebay, but the
seller seems to think it could be a different fitting.

Graham
Robert Peirce - 04 May 2008 17:01 GMT
> I am trying to buy a lens for my old Canon A1 and not sure if I can just buy
> any Canon FD lens. Could someone confirm, will any Canon FD lens fit my
> Canon A1? I was about to buy a Canon 50mm f1.4 FD lens from ebay, but the
> seller seems to think it could be a different fitting.
>
> Graham

AFAIK, any FD lens will work on an A-1 or an AE-1.  However, there were
two types of mounts, a screw type and a bayonet type.  Both work.  The
screw type has a silver collar that is rotated to lock the lens on.  On
he bayonet type the whole lens twists and locks.

The screw type is frequently seen on third party lenses.  I used to have
several.  I don't know when it was changed on the Canon lenses, but all
the ones I owned were bayonet type.

AFAIK, the key is the FD designation.

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rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office]

Graham - 04 May 2008 20:04 GMT
>> I am trying to buy a lens for my old Canon A1 and not sure if I can just
>> buy
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>
> AFAIK, the key is the FD designation.

Many thanks for the clear and concise reply. What you have said checks out
with the two lenses I have had for years. One is a Canon 35-70 zoom with the
bayonet mount and the other a 300mm telephoto with the silver collar design
you described.

Many thanks for clearing this up for me. I now know what to look for with
more confidence. I was going to buy the f 1.4 Canon 50mm FD lens for £45 as
I've always wanted a really bright, fast lens having had the dark f3.5 - 4.5
35-70mm zoom all these years. I suppose I could go for a f 1.8, but tempted
to get the 1.4. I am no expert in photography, but at least in theory I
understand the f1.4 is more than just a marginal amount brighter than the
1.8. However, in practice I don't know if it will really make much
difference (IE allowing me to use fast shutter speed to prevent camera shake
blurring in low light). As I said I am very much an amateur, but dabbled for
many, many years.

Regards
Graham
Robert Peirce - 04 May 2008 22:00 GMT
> more confidence. I was going to buy the f 1.4 Canon 50mm FD lens for £45 as
> I've always wanted a really bright, fast lens having had the dark f3.5 - 4.5
> 35-70mm zoom all these years. I suppose I could go for a f 1.8, but tempted
> to get the 1.4. I am no expert in photography, but at least in theory I
> understand the f1.4 is more than just a marginal amount brighter than the
> 1.8.

I had a 1.4 and a 1.8 50mm.  The 1.4 was noticeably faster, but digital
seems to handle really low light better.

I also had a 1.8 85mm which was a marvelous portrait lens.  

Unfortunately, I sold all my Canon stuff a couple of months ago or would
have offered them to you.  I don't remember the conversion but it looks
like you are paying close to $100 for this lens.  You can get it a lot
cheaper.  You shouldn't be able to, but you can!

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Robert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA  724-941-6883
bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac]
rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office]

Joel - 04 May 2008 23:10 GMT
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> Many thanks for the clear and concise reply. What you have said checks out
> with the two lenses I have had for years. One is a Canon 35-70 zoom with the
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> blurring in low light). As I said I am very much an amateur, but dabbled for
> many, many years.

    I used to have 50mm f1.8 came with Canon body, 50mm F1.4 macro and 50mm
f1.2 and several long zoom FD lens.  And because the price dropped so low I
decided to give the whole gear to a friend of mine who lives in a poor
country.

    Few years ago while looked for newer EOS mount lens on eBay, I ran into
some old FD lens and I think £45 is too much for the FD 50mm f1.4 lens (may
be even with body).
Ken Hart - 05 May 2008 00:50 GMT
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> Many thanks for the clear and concise reply. What you have said checks out
> with the two lenses I have had for years. One is a Canon 35-70 zoom with
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> camera shake blurring in low light). As I said I am very much an amateur,
> but dabbled for many, many years.

The f/1.4 is marginally better than the f/1.8, but sometimes that fractional
stop is all you need. All other things being equal, if you can afford the
f/1.4, buy it. Or you could save your pennies (pence?) for an f/1.2.

For more info about your camera and the lens options once available, check
up the Canon Museum at http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/index.html
Ken Hart - 05 May 2008 00:43 GMT
>I am trying to buy a lens for my old Canon A1 and not sure if I can just
>buy any Canon FD lens. Could someone confirm, will any Canon FD lens fit my
>Canon A1? I was about to buy a Canon 50mm f1.4 FD lens from ebay, but the
>seller seems to think it could be a different fitting.
>
> Graham

The Canon FD mount lenses will fit the Canon A-1 (born April 1978).  The
earlier FL mount lenses will also fit, but you will not have certain
automatic functions.
The FD lenses have two pins on the back: the one at the bottom (6 o'clock
position) stops down the lens for shooting. The one at 9 o'clock position
tells the camera what f/stop has been selected for metering purposes. The
older FL mount lenses do not have this pin. The Canon FX camera did not do
through the lens metering, so it didn't care what f/stop was selected. The
later FTql metered through the lens, but you had to manually stop down using
a lever beside the lens to get a meter reading.

The FD lenses will fit and work just fine on the older cameras that were
designed for FL lenses. The second pin is simply ignored.

The original FL lenses and the early FD lenses were breech-lock-bayonet
lenses. The mounting is a three tab bayonet, with a separate ring
(breech-lock) that rotated to engage the tabs. Users complained that three
hands were required to change a lens, one to hold the camera, one to hold
the lens, and one to turn the ring. Since many users didn't have three
hands, Canon made the breechlock a stationary part of the lens-- you rotated
the entire lens to mount it. These lenses are also compatible with both
older FL and newer FD mount cameras.

The short answer is "the seller is wrong, buy the lens."
 
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