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Gloria Jean - 28 Apr 2008 21:28 GMT

I would really like to know what you all think so leave your comn'ts
if like what you see for an beginner I aso write poetry as well so i
do have an blog for that aswell.....thats and have a great day

http://nessa-photography.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

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Peter - 28 Apr 2008 23:19 GMT

>I would really like to know what you all think so leave your comn'ts
> if like what you see for an beginner I aso write poetry as well so i
> do have an blog for that aswell.....thats and have a great day
>
> http://nessa-photography.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

Please take my comments in the context that I am a fierce proponent of the
"if the artist likes it, then it's art, school.

It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you a
beginner and gladly leave the nit picking to others. Even your family
"snapshot" conveys an emotion. Please don't stop and continue sharing your
work. The world need more like you.

Just my opinion.

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Ursus Californicus - 28 Apr 2008 23:45 GMT

> It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
> experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you a
> beginner and gladly leave the nit picking to others. Even your family
> "snapshot" conveys an emotion. Please don't stop and continue sharing your
> work. The world need more like you.

I concur whole-heartedly. This is hardly beginner's work! You're already
showing use of some advanced technicques and I like the results.

-- Theo, Grizzly Glen Photography

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tony cooper - 29 Apr 2008 01:11 GMT

>> It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
>> experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you a
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>
>-- Theo, Grizzly Glen Photography

It would be less distracting for some of us, though, if she'd get some
help from someone who can spell and write grammatically correct
English.

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Peter - 29 Apr 2008 01:33 GMT

>>> It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
>>> experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you a
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> help from someone who can spell and write grammatically correct
> English.

Tony, I kept quiet when the last go 'round on this diversion took place, but
let's not be picky on English.
I subscribe to a technical writers list and one of the prime rules on that
list is that we never correct someone else's grammar or spelling. Quite
often, in our haste to get off a meaningful comment our spelling or grammar
suffers, It is less important than the content of the posting therefore, I
hope that rule would be applied here. Not all of us have advanced
educational degrees. Not all of us are professional writers. Some of us are
here only to relax and learn.

Candidly, I burned my Fowler years ago.
See
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594480060/bookstorenow57-20

:-)

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tony cooper - 29 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT

>>>> It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
>>>> experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you a
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>educational degrees. Not all of us are professional writers. Some of us are
>here only to relax and learn.

First of all, she is soliciting comments on her site. Secondly, my
comment is about a blog, or website, or whatever you call what she's
provided a link to. I'm not commenting about what she's written in a
newsgroup post. I'm not exactly sure what a "technical writers list"
is, but I don't think the link is to one.

Distractions are distractions. If you link to a photograph with
something unintended in the frame, and ask for comments about the
photo, then whatever distraction is in the photo is fair game for
comment. As far as I'm concerned, if the photo is in a website, and
there are distracting errors accompanying the photo, then they are
equally fair game for comment if comments are solicited.

I don't see "haste" as a factor here. She's obviously spent a great
deal of time preparing the site. She should spend a little more time
and correct the errors.

I would not normally comment about writing "technical writers group"
in a posting in this newsgroup. (I would in another newsgroup -
alt.usage.english - that I follow) However, if you write that on a
website, and then ask for comments about your website, I'd comment on
it. If you use a link in your sig line to the site, but are not
asking for comments, I'd not comment.

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Peter - 29 Apr 2008 15:07 GMT

>>>>> It is rare to see someone who professes to be a beginner so willing to
>>>>> experiment and share the results. I certainly would never consider you
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> deal of time preparing the site. She should spend a little more time
> and correct the errors.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the usage of English in my reply.

And yes I agree with your comment about grammar on her site, but I was too
focused on her images.

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gpsman - 29 Apr 2008 06:25 GMT

> It would be less distracting for some of us, though, if she'd get some
> help from someone who can spell and write grammatically correct
> English.

I tend to agree, but I think you have to make allowances for those
whose brains are wired more toward the arts and/or for whom just being
understood is enough; communication comes first, spelling and
grammar... later.

There's unmistakably some talent there, however raw. Nothing very
original, but sometimes if not often people begin exploring their own
vision via imitation.

I know that's where I started, wanting to make pictures like those I
admired, and there I pretty much remain.

But I still get some pretty decent shots, and enjoy and appreciate the
process and results. I tend to concentrate on making myself happy
first, and I recommend the practice.
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- gpsman

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Peter - 29 Apr 2008 15:33 GMT

>> It would be less distracting for some of us, though, if she'd get some
>> help from someone who can spell and write grammatically correct
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> understood is enough; communication comes first, spelling and
> grammar... later.

Good artists with good people skills are rare. (Many in that class tend to
become event photographers.)
IMHO Ansel Adams would have made a lousy wedding photographer.

Good artists with top notch communication skills are even more so. (many in
that class tend to become creative directors.)

> There's unmistakably some talent there, however raw. Nothing very
> original, but sometimes if not often people begin exploring their own
> vision via imitation.
>
> I know that's where I started, wanting to make pictures like those I
> admired, and there I pretty much remain.

>I tend to concentrate on making myself happy
> first, and I recommend the practice.

Which is most important, whether you are a hobbyist or professional.

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(hoping I didn't start some sort of war)

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