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evansx3 - 09 Apr 2008 14:42 GMT
I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like to
develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and they are
very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase to enable me
to print out the photos?

Thanks Mark
Ken Hart - 09 Apr 2008 15:45 GMT
>I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like to
>develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and they
>are very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase to
>enable me to print out the photos?
>
> Thanks Mark

Why not just take them into the darkroom and contact print them? Many
exxcellent photograph have been made without the aid of a computer or
scanner. Darkroom technology is mature, alive, and doing pretty well.
Frank Arthur - 09 Apr 2008 16:18 GMT
>>I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would
>>like to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> computer or scanner. Darkroom technology is mature, alive, and doing
> pretty well.
Are you serious? Darkroom technology is expensive, time consuming,
uses up a lot of resources, requires a darkroom, special lighting and
equipment and is dying out fast.

Almost any flatbed scanner that also provides software that enables
reversing the image would work. It would produce dry, finished images
in minutes without a darkroom or the use of water.
evansx3 - 09 Apr 2008 16:36 GMT
Let me just say that I am not a photographer Iam an old Bodyman for a Ford
Dealership, so darkroom developing is not an option. Just thought the
scanner option if cost effective would enable me to print them myself.

Thanks Mark

>>>I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
>>>to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> reversing the image would work. It would produce dry, finished images in
> minutes without a darkroom or the use of water.
Ken Hart - 09 Apr 2008 17:58 GMT
>>>I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
>>>to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> reversing the image would work. It would produce dry, finished images in
> minutes without a darkroom or the use of water.

Wrong, pretty much all around.
Equipment for contact printing consists of a piece of glass from the local
hardware store, two or three tray-like containers from the housewares
section of WalMart. The time required for each print may be 3-5 minutes,
with a half hour when all the negs have been printed for washing and drying.
As for resources, the two chemicals required neutralize each other when they
are dumped down the drain and the water required is about the same as a
family size load of laundry for a couple dozen 8x10's. A darkroom? No, a
room that can be darkened, nearly. Special lighting could be a red Christmas
bulb or no light at all (I usually work in a Dark darkroom).
The scanned negatives will not have the gradual subtle tonality of an
optical (or contact) print. Depending on how you print them, they will not
have the life of a properly processed B&W print, rated at 200+ years.

Darkroom tachnology is not expensive, not time consumung, does not use up a
lot of resource, and last but not least, is not dying out fast! Try it out
before you put it down.
evansx3 - 09 Apr 2008 19:48 GMT
After researching your dark room idea and talking to a friend who used to do
photography I think I will give the dark room a shot. I guess I thought it
was much more complicated than it is. Also I think I will enjoy the process
and the photos more having learned something new and created them myself.
Report will follow after my attempts in a week or two.

Thanks again Mark

>>>>I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
>>>>to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> a lot of resource, and last but not least, is not dying out fast! Try it
> out before you put it down.
Ken Hart - 09 Apr 2008 20:10 GMT
> After researching your dark room idea and talking to a friend who used to
> do photography I think I will give the dark room a shot. I guess I thought
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Thanks again Mark

Good for you! If you have darkroom questions, you may email me at the
address below.

The darkroom prints will be better quality and last longer. The cost of a
darkroom print compares favorably (or better than) an inkjet print on
quality paper (paper similar in appearence and feel to photographic paper).

(To those who want to debate the long-life of photographs compared to inkjet
prints, my response is we can compare your 150 year old inkjet prints to my
150 year old photographs. Oh wait, you don't have any 150 year old inkjet
prints?)

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ray - 09 Apr 2008 15:56 GMT
> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
> to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
> they are very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase
> to enable me to print out the photos?
>
> Thanks Mark

I believe so. Last time I checked 8x10 slide/negative scanners were quite
a bit more expensive than 35mm or medium format. I've used an Epson 4490
which does medium format. I'd suggest you check their web site and see if
they have any refurb units for sale which are capable of full page.
Jim - 09 Apr 2008 18:00 GMT
> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like to
> develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and they are
> very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase to enable me
> to print out the photos?
>
> Thanks Mark

I have an old Epson that will do up to 4x5, but I suspect one that will
do 8x10 will be expen$ive.

Might be easier to put them on a light box and photograph them.  Reverse
the image in your photo editing software
Frank Arthur - 09 Apr 2008 18:17 GMT
>> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would
>> like to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Might be easier to put them on a light box and photograph them.
> Reverse the image in your photo editing software

You don't need a negative scanner. The least expensive flatbed
scanners take at least 8 1/2 x 11 inch negatives or prints- then
reverse image using the software.
Anon - 09 Apr 2008 21:37 GMT
>>> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
>>> to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> take at least 8 1/2 x 11 inch negatives or prints- then reverse image
> using the software.

How would you arrange a backlight and disable the scanners internal light?
If you've ever tried scanning a negative with a normal flatbed scanner
you'll know the results are next to useless otherwise.
The Royal Spam - 22 Jun 2008 14:59 GMT
>>> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would
>>> like to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> scanners take at least 8 1/2 x 11 inch negatives or prints- then
> reverse image using the software.

Or you could by some photographic paper, a bare 20w light bulb, a tray for
developer, another one for stop, one more for fixer, go into a darkened room
with a safelight, put the negative onto the paper, cover up some of the
paper with black card, switch the light on for a second, reveal a bit more
of the paper, expose for 2 seconds, reveal a bit more paper and expose for 4
seconds (etc.), take the paper to the developer and follow the timing
instructions that came with the chemicals until you see a magical image
appear before your very eyes, when it's fully developed put it into the stop
bathe for a short time, then into the fixer for the required time, rinse of
the chemicals in the bath, hang up to dry and be amazed a what amazing
quality you can get from an 8x10 neg. That is what Edward Weston used to do
and he was quite good.
ray - 09 Apr 2008 21:49 GMT
> I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like
> to develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and
> they are very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase
> to enable me to print out the photos?
>
> Thanks Mark

See - e.g. Epson V700 photo - 8x10 transparency adapter.
 
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