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Exposure Compensation on Nikon D50

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jrblack10 - 26 Feb 2008 14:05 GMT
I recently had the opportunity to be front row at a concert and
thought what a great opportunity photograph something new in differing
light situations.  I started by shooting with the flash on, but it
looked like I was getting some sort of haze (flash lighting up the
smoke and haze in the air).  Also noticed two crew photographers
shooting with out a flash.  So I began experimenting and found the
wonderful benefits of the Exposure Compensation button +/- button by
the shutter release.  So I set the ISO to 200 and the shutter speed
priority at 80/sec overexposed from 2 to 4 or so depending on the
picture and I was quite surprised and pleased with the results.

My question... what exactly is the over exposure button doing? It is
not adjusting the shutter speed.  Does it over-ride the ISO?  Or does
it do something else to make it more sensitive to light?

You can view some of the pictures here via FLASH gallery exported from
LightRoom.  There are a few  that I adjusted by adding black to darken
them to make the subject stand out more and limit the haze lit up by
the lights.

http://www.capturethisphoto.com/FlashGalleries/WinterJam2008%2DMandisa/
http://www.capturethisphoto.com/FlashGalleries/WinterJam2008%2DSkillet/
http://www.capturethisphoto.com/FlashGalleries/WinterJam2008%2DNewSong/
Garry Douglas - 26 Feb 2008 16:04 GMT
>I recently had the opportunity to be front row at a concert and
> thought what a great opportunity photograph something new in differing
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> not adjusting the shutter speed.  Does it over-ride the ISO?  Or does
> it do something else to make it more sensitive to light?

If you are shooting in shutter priority mode on a dSLR then the exposure
compensation feature adjusts the lens aperture. If you set the exposure
compensation to 2 it will open up the lens by one f stop and if it is set to
4 then by two f stops. The larger the aperture the more light there is
passing through the lens and hitting the sensor, hence the over exposure
from the un-compensated meter reading.
jrblack10 - 26 Feb 2008 17:14 GMT
On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
<ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:

> >I recently had the opportunity to be front row at a concert and
> > thought what a great opportunity photograph something new in differing
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> passing through the lens and hitting the sensor, hence the over exposure
> from the un-compensated meter reading.

So, does that mean I am not limited to aperture settings or values of
the lens?  If the lowest aperture on my lens is 4.5, the exposure
compensation setting of 2 will make the camera act as if my lens is
actually has a low value of 3.5?
Garry Douglas - 26 Feb 2008 18:04 GMT
> On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
> <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> compensation setting of 2 will make the camera act as if my lens is
> actually has a low value of 3.5?

I'm not familiar with the D50 but generally speaking if the ambient light
conditions mean that for a given shutter speed (let's say 1/80th sec as in
your example) the "correct" exposure could only be obtained at the widest
aperture (i.e f 3.5) then using the exposure compensation control may
produce an indicator in the viewfinder that the results will be under
exposed OR on some models a system known as program shift will override the
shutter speed and set a slower speed than the one you have selected. Some
conventional film multi mode SLRs used to employ this feature but I'm not
sure about which current dSLRs offer the same option.
Garry Douglas - 26 Feb 2008 18:24 GMT
>> On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
>> <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Some conventional film multi mode SLRs used to employ this feature but I'm
> not sure about which current dSLRs offer the same option.

From the nikon.uk site:

"AUTO ISO maximises available light by automatically setting ISO-equivalent
sensitivity across the available range of 200 to 1600. D50 photographers can
also opt to set the ISO sensitivity manually for personal control. "

Maybe the D50 does adjust the ISO sensitivity setting when you use the
exposure compensation feature at the limits of the lens aperture if you are
shooting in shutter priority mode instead of adjusting the shutter speed.
Hopefully there is another D50 user in the ng who can confirm this.
jrblack10 - 26 Feb 2008 18:28 GMT
On Feb 26, 1:04 pm, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:

> > On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
> > <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> conventional film multi mode SLRs used to employ this feature but I'm not
> sure about which current dSLRs offer the same option.

Silly me... in LightRoom, In the Metadata it shows the settings of the
camera for every picture.  It adjusted both the aperture and ISO
depending on the available light.  Thanks for the help though.

I did see some interesting F stops and ISOs... f/4.2 with ISO 1100,
but I could not manually set that value with my lense nor could I
choose an ISO of 1100 from my menu.
Dudley Hanks - 26 Feb 2008 20:26 GMT
> On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
> <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> compensation setting of 2 will make the camera act as if my lens is
> actually has a low value of 3.5?
No, your camera is physically limited to the maximum and minimum
specifications you can find listed in your manual.

If you are shooting in shutter priority and your meter decides that normal
exposure results in your cameras widest aperture, then the only way to
over-expose would be to bump up the ISO speed, which it might do.

In some cases, the camera may run out of options, and no over-exposure will
be possible, so your camera will just do its best by setting evrything wide
open.
jrblack10 - 26 Feb 2008 20:36 GMT
> > On Feb 26, 11:04 am, "Garry Douglas"
> > <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> be possible, so your camera will just do its best by setting everything wide
> open.

Thank you all for your input.

"By going to center-weighted or spot, the meter gets to focus on the
part of the image you actually want captured most faithfully. "
Thanks for the reminder on that one.  I had planed on trying such
thing, but for got about it.  Also, I was quite pleased with what
little I would see in the LCD display after the shot, that I forgot
about the other light metering.  Not sure when I will get the
opportunity to be front row at a concert like that again, but it was
fun and I learned a lot.
Dudley Hanks - 26 Feb 2008 20:17 GMT
>I recently had the opportunity to be front row at a concert and
> thought what a great opportunity photograph something new in differing
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> http://www.capturethisphoto.com/FlashGalleries/WinterJam2008%2DSkillet/
> http://www.capturethisphoto.com/FlashGalleries/WinterJam2008%2DNewSong/

This is one of those technical questions where the answer often depends on
what make / model of camera you are using.

In its simplist form, the answer to the question is in the question itself.
The "over-exposure setting" merely causes the camera to over-ride meter
evaluation and set the shutter / aperture / ISO trilogy of settings so that
the film plane / sensor will receive more light than is theoretically
necessary for proper exposure.

From my experience, it seems that most cameras use a progressive approach to
this issue.

First, if possible, the aperture is opened the required amount.

If the aperture is at full diameter, then the shutter speed is slowed down.
Finally, in some cases, but by no means all cases, if the shutter speed
reduction will result in too slow a shutter speed for the mode chosen, the
ISO speed is bumped up.

In some cameras, or in some modes, the first two steps may be reversed.

Obviously, in a simple answer one cannot possibly address all the factors,
nor anticipate all means programmers and hardware designers employ.  But, I
think that's the basics in a nutshell.

By the way, the next time you try shooting a concert, try setting your meter
to center weighted and / or spot metering and the exposure compensation to
slightly under-expose.

These two metering modes work well in concert situations, since you are
often shooting subjects that are spot lit, and which are much brighter than
the background.  Thus, as you noted, the evaluative metering method tends to
under-expose the overall picture.  By going to center-weighted or spot, the
meter gets to focus on the part of the image you actually want captured most
faithfully.

Special effect filters can also be a lot of fun at a concert.  Those cheesey
filters that can "stack" several copies of the same image side-by-side can
result in some really neat images if you are shootting a rock concert and
you get the lead singer or guitarist framed properly.

Also, slowing down the shutter can result in some really good implied motion
shots by blurring things like the neck of a guitar, drummers sticks, hand /
fingers moving over strings / keys while the rest of the body remains
relatively motionless.

Have fun, and good luck,
Dudley
 
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