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Question about memory card capacity.

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Jock Strap - 27 Jan 2008 19:41 GMT
Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at the
highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the manual that I
downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.
David H. Lipman - 27 Jan 2008 19:45 GMT
From: "Jock Strap" <jockstrap@protectthenuts.com>

| Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at the
| highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the manual that I
| downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.

500 ~ 550

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Dudley Hanks - 27 Jan 2008 21:24 GMT
> From: "Jock Strap" <jockstrap@protectthenuts.com>
>
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>
> 500 ~ 550

But, keep in mind that, as you near the card's capacity, the transfer speed
decreases with a corresponding increase in camera sluggishness.

See link:
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/compact_flash_card_speed/index.html

It is a good idea to either put in a new card, or download your pics, when
you've got your card about 80% - 90% full.

Good Luck,
Dudley
David H. Lipman - 27 Jan 2008 21:29 GMT
From: "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@gmail.com>

| But, keep in mind that, as you near the card's capacity, the transfer speed
| decreases with a corresponding increase in camera sluggishness.
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| Good Luck,
| Dudley

Good advice!

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Peter - 28 Jan 2008 18:30 GMT
> From: "Dudley Hanks" <hanks.dudley@gmail.com>
>
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>
> Good advice!

It's a better idea to do so more frequently, if you value your images.

Many don't realize there is a MTBF factor in every CF card.

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Jock Strap - 28 Jan 2008 11:04 GMT
>> From: "Jock Strap" <jockstrap@protectthenuts.com>
>>
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> Good Luck,
> Dudley

I'll keep that in mind. I use a memory stick pro though.
ray - 28 Jan 2008 16:05 GMT
>> From: "Jock Strap" <jockstrap@protectthenuts.com>
>>
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> Good Luck,
> Dudley

I would be surprised if that is a universal truth - after all they are
random access devices without moving parts.
Dudley Hanks - 28 Jan 2008 16:37 GMT
>>> From: "Jock Strap" <jockstrap@protectthenuts.com>
>>>
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> I would be surprised if that is a universal truth - after all they are
> random access devices without moving parts.

If you read the article, you would note that the tests were not inclusive of
all cards, nor of all systems.

Mr. Clark noted in particular that he had not thoroughly tested cameras that
use more than one subdirectory, and he suspects that such cameras would be
less prone to the varying transfer speed.

However, my heads up was posted simply to advise photographers that, if they
intend to store large numbers of files on a single card, they might want to
be vigilant for an increase in camera sluggishness.  And, if ssuch an effect
becomes noticeable, it is easily remedied.

That's all,
Dudley
Joel - 28 Jan 2008 19:24 GMT
<snip>
> > But, keep in mind that, as you near the card's capacity, the transfer
> > speed decreases with a corresponding increase in camera sluggishness.
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> I would be surprised if that is a universal truth - after all they are
> random access devices without moving parts.

    I don't pay much attention to memory card as hard drive (which I agree
100%), so I don't think it will make much or any difference base on few
simple things.

- First, Memory Card is Memory *not* disc to have fragment issue like hard
drive, also memory card is usually too small comparing to hard drive to make
a big issue

- Second, the writing speed of camera is too slow comparing to the top speed
of Memory Card to notice the difference (even if it does happen).

    And many people format the memory card quite often (I do because it's lot
faster than deleting hundreds or sometime over thousand photos).
Dudley Hanks - 28 Jan 2008 20:37 GMT
> <snip>
>> > But, keep in mind that, as you near the card's capacity, the transfer
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> And many people format the memory card quite often (I do because it's lot
> faster than deleting hundreds or sometime over thousand photos).

Did you take the time to read the article?

You should, it's really quite interesting.

You might be surprised how much the speed can decrease when some cards are
nearly full.

However, if you haven't noticed a slowdown, then you don't have a problem,
right?  But, some people might actually notice the problem, and they might
be interested in what is going on, and what to do about it.

A "heads up" is just that, a red flag which you can choose to act on or
ignore.  I can tell you that it might be a good idea not to walk under a
ladder with a painter working up top.  You can choose to go around, or you
can choose to push your luck and zip in behind it.  The result?  Who knows?
But, I for one like to be forewarned.

Good Luck,
Dudley
ray - 27 Jan 2008 20:44 GMT
> Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at
> the highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the
> manual that I downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.

That depends. 7 megapixels is about 21 megabytes - so, uncompressed,
about 100. If they are jpeg images, they will be compressed - so the
compression factor is relevant. If compression is about 10 to one then
about 1000. If you're doing raw then again, it depens on whether your raw
files are being compressed - raw files uncompressed will be probably be
larger than 21mb. There should be a chart somewhere in your owners manual
- it may or may not mention a 2gb card, but you can easily scale up from
what is there.
Morton - 27 Jan 2008 21:05 GMT
> Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at the
> highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the manual that I
> downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.

My camera has 7.1 mp, and at the highest quality JPEG, gets 312 pix on a
1 GB card. I presume, therefore, that a 2 GB card would hold about 624
pix. When you turn on my camera Canon SD 800, the screen shows in the
lower right corner, how many pix are left on the card.

Morton
Jock Strap - 27 Jan 2008 21:26 GMT
> Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at
> the highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the
> manual that I downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.

Sorry guys I'm an idiot. I accidently turned over two pages and I have now
found the information. Its 573 images.
Joel - 27 Jan 2008 23:29 GMT
> > Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at
> > the highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the
> > manual that I downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.
>
> Sorry guys I'm an idiot. I accidently turned over two pages and I have now
> found the information. Its 573 images.

    As some of us have mentioned that the number of image is depending on your
setting, and not all images will have the exact same size so you may have
+/- 1-3% depending on the size of memory card.
Rob Morley - 28 Jan 2008 02:32 GMT
In article <Xns9A32DA29A97B4jockstrapprotectthen@194.117.143.38>, Jock
Strap
jockstrap@protectthenuts.com says...

> > Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at
> > the highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the
> > manual that I downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.
>
> Sorry guys I'm an idiot. I accidently turned over two pages and I have now
> found the information. Its 573 images.

I doubt it's that precise - the amount an image can be compressed at a
certain quality setting will depend on its content.
Jock Strap - 28 Jan 2008 11:10 GMT
> In article <Xns9A32DA29A97B4jockstrapprotectthen@194.117.143.38>, Jock
> Strap
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I doubt it's that precise - the amount an image can be compressed at a
> certain quality setting will depend on its content.

The manual did say that this value was only an approximation and that the
number may vary depending on conditions and recording medium.
Joel - 27 Jan 2008 21:41 GMT
> Approximately how many pictures can you store on a 2gb memory card at the
> highest quality when using a 7megapixel camera. I looked in the manual that I
> downloaded but couldn't find the answer to this question.

    In general it depends on your setting Highest vs Lowest RAW vs JPG or RAW
+ JPG etc..

-  And your camera should display the number of images base on your setting.
It may not be 100% correct but pretty close

- Or you just check the average size of several images (the size will vary
depending on color) then do a simple math and you should get the answer.
 
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