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Followfocus Productions - 21 Dec 2007 19:36 GMT Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see that most of you are internet trolls and flamers who post in several groups and its the same rhetoric. You flame every one and anyone. Its obvious you suffer from Passive Aggression and you hide behind your monitor. I bet you toads were hall monitors in school huh? Never seemed to get past the constant pickings and teasings. And here you are in all of your glory...
Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay?
Pete D - 21 Dec 2007 19:47 GMT > Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? Instead of being a whiner why don't you post something nice about photography, maybe some of your recent photos?
Over to your Blue Leader!!!
AxisOfBeagles - 21 Dec 2007 19:59 GMT I can only assume that you received some flak in response to your earlier posting in which you presented the link to your portfolio website.
I have to say, with all due respect, that if this is why you're choosing to post a rant - aren't you being a little unrealistic? I mean, what do you expect in a public newsgroup or internet forum? Ignore the BS, and pay attention to the posts that have merit.
And maybe lay off the caffeine a little.
> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? Chris H - 21 Dec 2007 21:30 GMT >I can only assume that you received some flak in response to your >earlier posting in which you presented the link to your portfolio [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >And maybe lay off the caffeine a little. I just got the following strange email from followfocus....
//////////////////////////// From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:26 PM To: info@phaedsys.org Subject: Harassment from one of your employees I would appreciate it if you would please put a stop to Chris Hills constant defamatory language against me and my website all over the net. I will be having my lawyer send a cease and desist order for slander and libel to your location as the harassing emails and posts are coming from your company IP address range.
Thank you.. Gary Nicholson www.followfocusproductions.com
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As far as I know I have never even looked at his web site. Much less commented on it.
However I don't know if I have said any harsh words to Gary in the usual cut and thrust of NG debate. I may have done. But certainly not "constantly". You should see some of the other NG's they make this one seem tame.
Has anyone else had any similar humorous emails? Personally I am not likely to travel to the US so he can do what he likes with a lawyer.
>> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want >> to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> are in all of your glory... >> Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay?
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Robert Coe - 28 Dec 2007 20:58 GMT : I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... : [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] : Has anyone else had any similar humorous emails? Personally I am not : likely to travel to the US so he can do what he likes with a lawyer. You needn't worry anyway. US libel laws are much less Draconian than those in the UK. (The fascists who currently run the country would probably like to change that, but they haven't been able to make much headway. And they'll be gone in just over a year anyway.) Nicholson would be laughed at by any reputable lawyer. And since most libel suits are on a contingent fee basis, even a disreputable lawyer would be unlikely to take such a case.
Bob
roentarre - 23 Dec 2007 06:00 GMT Then why are you really here then?
Scott W - 21 Dec 2007 20:15 GMT On Dec 21, 9:36 am, Followfocus Productions <followfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? I took a look at your past post, the threads start with you posting something like "hey check out my photos" with a link. Then when you get any criticism of either your web site or your photos you call the person a jerk. As far as I can see you have posted nothing other then a quick line asking people to look at your photos. Sorry to hear you are not feeling a lot of love from the groups.
Scott
Mr. Strat - 21 Dec 2007 21:13 GMT In article <ad33f475-4191-4bf5-9363-3577e3dcc745@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > seemed to get past the constant pickings and teasings. And here you > are in all of your glory... Gee...sorry that everyone isn't kissing your a.s.
Frank Arthur - 21 Dec 2007 21:30 GMT Learn to use the software to remove pests before entering your computer. If you are fortunate enough to use Windows XP you can , under Message/Create Rule delete them. The human detritus in this newsgroup contribute nothing.
> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? Rob Morley - 22 Dec 2007 01:19 GMT In article <ad33f475-4191-4bf5-9363-3577e3dcc745 @d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Followfocus Productions followfocus@gmail.com says...
> Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want > to be so critical try alt.flame. If you just want praise for your stuff why not ask your mommy rather than posting to usenet? I didn't look at your site before, but now I have. The Flash slideshow is a PITA, it makes navigation really sluggish and inflexible. A lot of the pictures look like pretty ordinary snapshots. You have a tendency to put the horizon in the middle of the frame - generally this doesn't work well (I won't say it never works - I've seen some very good shots with the horizon in the middle, but they tend to be the exception). Also you should really think about using a level on the camera if you can't set it straight. You say "Light plays such a large part in how a photograph will turn out that sometimes I have had to take many trips to the same subject to observe how the light falls on it" but there's little evidence of that in many of the shots.
Chris H - 22 Dec 2007 09:52 GMT >In article <ad33f475-4191-4bf5-9363-3577e3dcc745 >@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Followfocus Productions [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >the same subject to observe how the light falls on it" but there's >little evidence of that in many of the shots. I just got the following strange email from followfocus....
//////////////////////////// From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:26 PM To: info@phaedsys.org Subject: Harassment from one of your employees I would appreciate it if you would please put a stop to Chris Hills constant defamatory language against me and my website all over the net. I will be having my lawyer send a cease and desist order for slander and libel to your location as the harassing emails and posts are coming from your company IP address range.
Thank you.. Gary Nicholson www.followfocusproductions.com
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As far as I know I have never even looked at his web site. Much less commented on it.
However I don't know if I have said any harsh words to Gary in the usual cut and thrust of NG debate. I may have done. But certainly not "constantly". You should see some of the other NG's they make this one seem tame.
Has anyone else had any similar humorous emails? Personally I am not likely to travel to the US so he can do what he likes with a lawyer.
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Rob Morley - 22 Dec 2007 12:19 GMT > I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... I know - the bloke's obviously a nutter. Do you think I'll get one too?
Chris H - 22 Dec 2007 13:32 GMT >> I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... >> >I know - the bloke's obviously a nutter. Do you think I'll get one too? No... You're not worth it. :-) I am clearly a superior type of insulter.
Mind you he did go direct to "my boss" which I consider completely unacceptable. I am posting in a personal capacity yet he attempts to cause problems for me in my place of work...
I have reported him to gmail abuse since he sent the threat on one of their addresses.
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Prisilla, Queen of the Desert - 31 Dec 2007 07:49 GMT > In message <MPG.21d70e15edd0f5ce98b...@news.individual.net>, Rob Morley > <nos...@ntlworld.com> writes>In article <BqX6WgCq5NbHF...@phaedsys.demon.co.uk>, Chris H [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > /\/\/ ch...@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org\/\/\ > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Chris... You seem to think reporting an "incident" to a person's 'boss' is off limits but reporting someone to their host is not. Are you sure you are not trying to feed the chicken your porridge and still eat it? You are no angelic poster here. You post your own overly fair share of insults and abuse yet when someone complains and you take no notice then that go up a step in the chain, you cry. Poor you. Are we all to pity you now?
FWIW. I consider most of the childish insults going around on Usenet a result of kids being locked in their room with only a PC for entertainment. They take out their hate on whomsoever they choose or worse, do it for their own personal entertainment. Does this sound familiar to you Chris?
PQOTD
Chris H - 31 Dec 2007 09:15 GMT In message <22c5d10c-d5d8-40f7-bf2a-8ed1707b1b47@e26g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, "Prisilla, Queen of the Desert" <prisilla7@gmail.com> writes
>> In message <MPG.21d70e15edd0f5ce98b...@news.individual.net>, Rob Morley >> <nos...@ntlworld.com> writes>In article [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >You seem to think reporting an "incident" to a person's 'boss' is off >limits but reporting someone to their host is not. Absolutely. My post was made in a personal capacity. Nothing to do with my work. However the ridiculous and unfounded email from followfoucus (I had not made any comment about him or his website) threatening legal action and trying to get my IP blocked was out of order.
> You post your own overly fair share of >insults and abuse yet when someone complains Not usually.
>and you take no notice >then that go up a step in the chain, you cry. Poor you. Are we all to >pity you now? I just posted it to let others know what sort of person they were dealing with,
>FWIW. I consider most of the childish insults going around on Usenet a >result of kids being locked in their room with only a PC for >entertainment. They take out their hate on whomsoever they choose or >worse, do it for their own personal entertainment. Does this sound >familiar to you Chris? It sounds like folowfocus (the other emails I received from him were all in capitals and made homophobic and personal insults much like a teen ager would) and others who tend to post under fake email names. Does that sound familiar?
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mark.thomas.7@gmail.com - 01 Jan 2008 10:52 GMT Off topic.
> It sounds like folowfocus (the other emails I received from him were > all in capitals and made homophobic and personal insults much like a > teen ager would) and others who tend to post under fake email names. > Does that sound familiar? It should. Prisilla (sic) is of course Douglas MacDonald, king of the sockpuppets and author of innumerable fake lawsuits and threats. His lunacy may be found scattered all over usenet under the following names (and others): ryadia, technoaussie, auspics, big guy, ormiston, sebastian po, doug, douglas, douglas macdonald, stool pigeon, duncan donald, an interested bystander, one million pics, one million pictures, alan jones, alienjones, alienjones himself, alvie, the yowie, bigpix, pix on canvas, the administrator, pixby, henretta, joe bailey, graham hunt, healthypcs, random user 12987, MoioM, go go dancer, maddy, huey fong, wilder and wilder, tekoaussie, justintyme, snaps, kakadu, HPC, deciple of EOS, child of EOS, call me any name, keep_it_simple, notsimple, not_just_Simple, tropical treat, d-mac, wraped in canvas, Julian Abbot, Cryptopix, Aussie Aussie Aussie, Parallel Dreaming, Sarina Sarin, Susana Jones and now Prisilla...
Chris H - 22 Dec 2007 17:33 GMT >> I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... >> >I know - the bloke's obviously a nutter. Do you think I'll get one too? Having threatened to sue me (I said "go ahead") Having told me I am an American (all my on line stuff is British)
His current rejoinder is:-
/////////////////// From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:20 PM To: info@phaedsys.com Subject: Re: Harassment from one of your employees
I have not made any threats.. You sir did. What an a.s....Stop trying to scare me. Its not working...And You are full of crap....Now go away you w.nker...Get a life.....LOSER.. ////////////////////
So having told me he is chasing me with a lawyer he gets upset when I respond.
This seems like panic to me... Never mind At least we know the calibre of Mr Nicholson... In his own words perhaps?
"You are full of crap....Now go away you w.nker...Get a life.....LOSER."
Not particularly eloquent but somewhat apt and rather fitting I think.
Seasons Greetings to all... oh alight then even to the 35mm people and (If I must) the misguided Cannon users.
Chris
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Mr. Strat - 22 Dec 2007 19:10 GMT > His current rejoinder is:- Damn...I ripped his images and he hasn't threatened me. I'm feeling left out.
Chris H - 22 Dec 2007 20:54 GMT >> His current rejoinder is:- > >Damn...I ripped his images and he hasn't threatened me. I'm feeling >left out. Told you: You're just not worth it...... :-)
He threatened me but as soon as I came back at him he resorted to childish insults far worse than any I have seen directed his way.
I did wonder if some adolescent hacker has spoofed his identity? Otherwise he has lost any credibility in this NG.
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Mr. Strat - 22 Dec 2007 21:25 GMT > I did wonder if some adolescent hacker has spoofed his identity? > Otherwise he has lost any credibility in this NG. After looking at his images, I don't know that he ever had any credibility.
Chris H - 01 May 2008 09:04 GMT >>> His current rejoinder is:- >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I did wonder if some adolescent hacker has spoofed his identity? >Otherwise he has lost any credibility in this NG. To everyone
I have just had an email exchange with John Nicholson Co owner and creator Followfocus Productions http://www.followfocusproductions.com
It appears that back in December a former employee on being let go from Followfocus managed to use various company email accounts to attack various people, including myself, as senior staff members of Followfocus.
The highly offensive, homophobic and xenophobic rants from this former employee masqurading as a senior memebr of Followfocus have nothing in to do with Followfocus or the far more professional emails I have just received.
The posts in this thread where I copied emails from Followfocus were in fact caused by this rouge employee. NOT Follofocus.
Therefore I have decided to post this clarification. BTW Followfocus have not asked me to do this, it is my own idea as I think it is only fair to Followfocus who have had their business sabotaged by a former employee.
Regards Chris
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Chris H - 01 May 2008 09:04 GMT >>> I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Chris To everyone
I have just had an email exchange with John Nicholson Co owner and creator Followfocus Productions http://www.followfocusproductions.com
It appears that back in December a former employee on being let go from Followfocus managed to use various company email accounts to attack various people, including myself, as senior staff members of Followfocus.
The highly offensive, homophobic and xenophobic rants from this former employee masqurading as a senior memebr of Followfocus have nothing in to do with Followfocus or the far more professional emails I have just received.
The posts in this thread where I copied emails from Followfocus were in fact caused by this rouge employee. NOT Follofocus.
Therefore I have decided to post this clarification. BTW Followfocus have not asked me to do this, it is my own idea as I think it is only fair to Followfocus who have had their business sabotaged by a former employee.
Regards Chris
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Chris H - 01 May 2008 09:03 GMT >> I just got the following strange email from followfocus.... >> >I know - the bloke's obviously a nutter. Do you think I'll get one too? To everyone
I have just had an email exchange with John Nicholson Co owner and creator Followfocus Productions http://www.followfocusproductions.com
It appears that back in December a former employee on being let go from Followfocus managed to use various company email accounts to attack various people, including myself, as senior staff members of Followfocus.
The highly offensive, homophobic and xenophobic rants from this former employee masqurading as a senior memebr of Followfocus have nothing in to do with Followfocus or the far more professional emails I have just received.
The posts in this thread where I copied emails from Followfocus were in fact caused by this rouge employee. NOT Follofocus.
Therefore I have decided to post this clarification. BTW Followfocus have not asked me to do this, it is my own idea as I think it is only fair to Followfocus who have had their business sabotaged by a former employee.
Regards Chris
 Signature \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Joel - 22 Dec 2007 14:50 GMT <snip>
> From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:26 PM [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thank you.. > Gary Nicholson The NG won't be the court room to find out who is right/wrong, but if you wanna other to hear your story then at least you have to provide the information of both sides.
- I don't check the web to know what's all about.
- I often don't pay attention to mouth-war to know what's going on
- I never pay attention to the name of poster but the caontain of the message to remember the war between Chris vs Gary
And usually the ISP should include whatever message contain the defamatory language that other reports to the ISP, and I know Cut & Paste should do.
No, I have no interest in the war .. but just my opinion.
Peter - 22 Dec 2007 19:34 GMT > In article <ad33f475-4191-4bf5-9363-3577e3dcc745 > @d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Followfocus Productions [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the same subject to observe how the light falls on it" but there's > little evidence of that in many of the shots. I hope you will be as candid with me when I get around to completing my website. I have seen the "mommy loves your work" reaction too often in many groups. Sure I want folks to like my work, but the marketplace is the ultimate judge. Candid and helpful comments from folks like you, if you want to bother may very well give me important clues to improvement.
 Signature Peter If you don't have a thick skin, don't ask for comments
Chris H - 22 Dec 2007 16:21 GMT Well it gets worse Mr Nicholsons considered reply was:
"f.ck YOU SHITBAG. YOU FUCKIN YANKS ARE CRAP ANYWAY"
See below for actual email.
Quite interesting as both my personal Sig here and my business sig clearly indicate I am British and based in the UK. Had he looked at my web site (nothing to do with photography) he would have seen we are most defiantly UK based and have no connection with the US.
However his whole demeanour and standard of reply leaves me to conclude that not only are his pictures and web site of low quality but as a person he is a complete tosser.
Seasons Greetings to all of you except Mr Nicholson and all Cannon users who are going to rot in hell for being subverted by the dark side not using Gods Own Nikon :-)
Chris
PS sorry I didn't mean Cannon I meant 35mm film users :-))
In message <ad33f475-4191-4bf5-9363-3577e3dcc745@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Followfocus Productions <followfocus@gmail.com> writes
>Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want >to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////// From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:55 PM To: info@phaedsys.com Subject: Re: Harassment from one of your employees
f.ck YOU SHITBAG. YOU FUCKIN YANKS ARE CRAP ANYWAY
Mr Nicholson Please provide some evidence for your alegations. We can not find any. I don't think I have replied to you much if at all. The Internet Usenet Groups (which we have been using for some 18 years) are, except for the moderated ones, quite free flowing and you take the rough with the smooth. I note that many of your posts are less than polite. Some would say insulting. So you are apparently accusing me, erroneously, of behaviour you indulge in yourself. I have just had a quick look at your web site for the first time and the pictures are OK but I have not make any comments on them publically. Though I note you have made several public posts to the NG asking for public criticism of your work... however you have become quite insulting to anyone who does not praise the work. I suggest that the cut and thrust of an Internet Usenet newsgroup is not the forum for you. Your threat of legal action has been duly noted and is of little interest to me. You are free to pursue any course you like however this sort of threat we regard as abuse and have forwarded it to the gmail abuse team. should any IP address be blocked I think you will find it will be yours for threatening behaviour. Regards Chris
From: N [mailto:followfocus@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:26 PM To: info@phaedsys.org Subject: Harassment from one of your employees
I would appreciate it if you would please put a stop to Chris Hills constant defamatory language against me and my website all over the net. I will be having my lawyer send a cease and desist order for slander and libel to your location as the harassing emails and posts are coming from your company IP address range.
Thank you..
Gary Nicholson
www.followfocusproductions.com
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Robert Coe - 28 Dec 2007 20:47 GMT : Why are you even in here? Have you nothing better to do? If you want : to be so critical try alt.flame. After searching your names I can see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : : Why don't you go away and leave the humans and adults alone M'kay? Thanks ever so much, Jack. Your post is like throwing gasoline on a cooking fire. Now that we know who the real troll is, why don't you just mosey on out of here and leave us alone.
Bob
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