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Big Pete - 17 Nov 2007 18:15 GMT I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people to view and pass comment on, (amateur photography). Anyone know if this is still around, and are people not attaching images in newgroups now, is it no longer allowed, because I don't see them anymore?
romeo - 17 Nov 2007 18:59 GMT In article <473f2f91$0$9217$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Big Pete <pbutel@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a > newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people > to view and pass comment on, (amateur photography). Anyone know if this > is still around, and are people not attaching images in newgroups now, > is it no longer allowed, because I don't see them anymore? I would suggest maybe a "alt.binaries.photography. subject your choice" newsgroup. The word 'binaries', as in ' atl.binaries' can be your clue. IMHO
romeo
Don - 17 Nov 2007 23:55 GMT romeo <romeo77rNOT@hotmail.com> wrote in news:171120071059248140% romeo77rNOT@hotmail.com:
> In article > <473f2f91$0$9217$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Big Pete [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > romeo In the event your able to locate a binaries group that supports attachements? You should be able to provide a URL to that the thread in NG Arhcives: ( http://groups.google.com/ ) to this group for discussion and assistance.
Floyd L. Davidson - 18 Nov 2007 00:48 GMT >>> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a >>> newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> newsgroup. The word 'binaries', as in ' atl.binaries' can be your clue. >> IMHO ...
>In the event your able to locate a binaries group that supports >attachements? What would attachments have to do with it? The point is just to post the binary.
> You should be able to provide a URL to that the thread in NG Arhcives: >( http://groups.google.com/ ) to this group for discussion and assistance. That is true, but not particularly useful. People who use reasonable newsreaders don't need to, or want to, got to "NG Arhcives" to see something reference in an article they are reading.
All that's really need would be one of two things. The least suitable, but sometimes only available, solution is the one suggest of posting the image to a binary group. Then the subject header and date, of course along with the name of the newsgroup, can be posted to whatever discussion group the text article is in. It works, but isn't actually recommended.
The best solution is to post the image to a web site where it can be access via HTTP protocols. Then the URL to the image is posted as part of the text discussion article.
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Joel - 18 Nov 2007 03:39 GMT <snip>
> The best solution is to post the image to a web site > where it can be access via HTTP protocols. Then the URL > to the image is posted as part of the text discussion > article. Me? the best solution is to join a graphic/retouch web forum there they can post the LINK to display whatever image they want to discuss, show off, or ask question etc..
And it's much easier than NNTP because
- The graphic will be available much longer than NNTP, so people can view, review for months
- The picture will be shown on monitor as part of conversation.
Big Pete - 18 Nov 2007 06:22 GMT Thanks All...
> <snip> >> The best solution is to post the image to a web site [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > - The picture will be shown on monitor as part of conversation. Don - 18 Nov 2007 19:05 GMT >>>> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to >>>> a newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > to the image is posted as part of the text discussion > article. Floyd, I'm sure you believe your helping me (thanks anyway), however my answer was a result of the understanding of the original inquiry. 1) If they had their own website? Why would they have the need for binaries or any other forum to display an image? DUH!
2) Just because an action is outside the boundaries of your travels or restrictions, doesn't make the effect any less useful.
Floyd L. Davidson - 18 Nov 2007 19:52 GMT >>>>> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to >>>>> a newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >Floyd, > I'm sure you believe your helping me (thanks anyway), however my No, I am not trying to help *you*. I was trying to make sure that your disinformation, such as the nonsense about "a binaries group that supports attachements", did not cause more confusion than necessary. There is no such thing as a Usenet group that "supports attachments".
>answer was a result of the understanding of the original inquiry. But not understanding the answer...
> 1) If they had their own website? Why would they have the need for >binaries or any other forum to display an image? DUH! And if they don't realize that, then that is what needs to be explained.
Regardless, posting a URL that works only through a specific archive is certainly one method of making such a binary available; unfortunately it isn't perhaps the best.
>2) Just because an action is outside the boundaries of your travels or >restrictions, doesn't make the effect any less useful. Once you have enough experience to understand what the effects actually are, you'll understand.
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Don - 18 Nov 2007 20:45 GMT >>>>>> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to >>>>>> a newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > not cause more confusion than necessary. There is no such > thing as a Usenet group that "supports attachments". Oh really! "disinformation".
alt.binaries.pictures.horses, and adding an image there, will allow providing a URL through Google Groups Archives will allow the displaying of the image in any NG. Course the user is required a "reader" that allows the displaying images.
>>answer was a result of the understanding of the original inquiry. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Once you have enough experience to understand what the > effects actually are, you'll understand. I've been participating in Usenet since 1996 and my experience is far beyond your defintion of "inexperience". Alas, it seems your wasting your breath (composition) as I'll never understand ;-)
Joel - 18 Nov 2007 21:20 GMT <snip>
> I've been participating in Usenet since 1996 and my experience is far > beyond your defintion of "inexperience". > Alas, it seems your wasting your breath (composition) as I'll never > understand ;-) I don't follow this war <bg> closely to know who is winning the battle, and which direction the bomb is dropping etc.. so I just give the general information about this messy.
1. There are many web forums designed specific for people who like to share, ask, show off some photo they need the answer, or to show off the talent etc.. There you can have the image displays as part of the message.
2. If you have you web page to store your image then it's fine, if you don't then there are tons of FREE photo hosting sites that you can use to upload whatever image you want the world to see to one of the free photo hostins sites, then paste the LINK to the message (of the web forum *not* here) then the photo will be shown.
There, reader will see what photo you want them to see, if you ask for help then other can display their fixed version to show the difference between the original and the retouched version.
Floyd L. Davidson - 19 Nov 2007 01:13 GMT >> No, I am not trying to help *you*. I was trying to make >> sure that your disinformation, such as the nonsense [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Oh really! "disinformation". "Supports attachments" is nonsense. Until you get that straight, don't expect anything else for a description.
>alt.binaries.pictures.horses, and adding an image there, will allow Not what you said, that is what *I* suggested.
>providing a URL through Google Groups Archives will allow the displaying of >the image in any NG. A URL through Google Groups is too specific, though as I agreed it will work. It just isn't really the "best" way.
> I've been participating in Usenet since 1996 and my experience is far >beyond your defintion of "inexperience". I'm afraid that the length of time you've used Usenet has little relationship to understanding it; particularly if you only started using it in 1996. That's about when, along with MicroSoft and AOL, about half the world suddenly discovered Usenet and the Internet.
Usenet hasn't really changed much since about 1996, as opposed to the commonly large amount of change (mostly social changes, not technical ones, as new types of users gained access to the Internet) every couple of years before that. Obviously it was smaller, and most users had much more of a hands on association with it than has been true in the last decade.
> Alas, it seems your wasting your breath (composition) as I'll never >understand ;-) If you'd stop being so willfully stubborn you probably could learn.
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Chris Hills - 19 Nov 2007 08:33 GMT >In article ><473f2f91$0$9217$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Big Pete [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >newsgroup. The word 'binaries', as in ' atl.binaries' can be your clue. >IMHO Do NOT use a binaries NG. Use a web site and post the link. There are several reasons for this.
1 not all news servers carry the binary NGs 2 most news servers only hold binaries for a couple of days
Due to the huge increase in the about of email/news (and exponential rise in spam) many ISP's are cutting back their coverage of binary groups because of storage. Also as most people now have web space they don't need the binaries groups.
When binary groups started the WWW did not exist and very few had web space.
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Jason Schoenrock - 20 Nov 2007 21:10 GMT > I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a > newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people to > view and pass comment on, (amateur photography). Anyone know if this is > still around, and are people not attaching images in newgroups now, is it > no longer allowed, because I don't see them anymore? The responses to this thread are fairly typical for this ng. A new person asks a fairly simple question and gets 1) a sarcastic response that doesn't really help and 2) a war of words between people with nothing better to do.. This is the first thread I've read in quite a while and now I remember why I've been off the group.
I know that coin collectors share images on alt.binaries.pictures.numismatic, so at least some people share via newsgroup.
I've used the forum on Steve's Digicam (http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forums/) website with good results without most of the sarcasm and insults you have to endure here.
Good luck!
DBLEXPOSURE - 20 Nov 2007 21:25 GMT >> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a >> newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Good luck! Nail-on-the-head Jason.
Tom - 26 Nov 2007 03:26 GMT >> I've been off the net for app. 4 years now, I used to subscribe to a >> newsgroup that allowed you to post a small image attachment for people to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >This is the first thread I've read in quite a while and now I remember why >I've been off the group. ............well put. It is quite exasperating.
>I know that coin collectors share images on >alt.binaries.pictures.numismatic, so at least some people share via >newsgroup. There are quite a few around.
>I've used the forum on Steve's Digicam >(http://forums.steves-digicams.com/forums/) website with good results >without most of the sarcasm and insults you have to endure here. > >Good luck! Good advice.
Tom.
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