> I have a Centon 500 F8 mirror lens, which I like for its size and
> compactness, but feel that the image quality could be a lot better. I
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> I believe that Nikon also used to / still do make a mirror lens. Does
> anyone know anything about this?
Mirror lenses generally sucks, and are often a bit soft.
Seen a comparison between the Canon 28-135mm IS USM and a
cheap 500mm f/8, and magnifying the 28-135mm IS picts in Photoshop
produced almost as good a result as the 500mm mirror lens.
I have a telescope, which is a 1250mm f/12 lens, and it is OK
but not great. Performs just as good or better in afocal mode
(i.e. I take a photo with the normal eyepieces inplace) as
it does without the Plössl eyepiece.
Canon has an EF500mm f/4.5L USM. A bit large at 3 kg and 39cm,
but it is way better than the one you have now.
> I have a Centon 500 F8 mirror lens, which I like for its size and
> compactness, but feel that the image quality could be a lot better. I
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> Thanks
> David Byford
Is the Centon lens one of those designs in which, looking from the back, you can
see past the front mirror without going via the main mirror? (i.e poor baffling)
That will reduce the contrast, and a more mainstream design will give you better
results. The Tamron had a good reputation, and will fit a variety of bodies.

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>I have a Centon 500 F8 mirror lens, which I like for its size and
>compactness, but feel that the image quality could be a lot better. I
>know that Tamron and Sigma both make mirror lenses: has anyone any
>experience of using these and better still would anyone know if they
>are appreciably better than the Cosina?
Yes, both are very much better than the Cosina. I have used the
Tamron 500mm extensively. There is also a 350mm. I have two friends
who have older Sigma 600mm catadioptric (mirror) lenses and they get
superb results. However all mirror lenses suffer from the same
weaknesses, namely only one aperture and the strange, doughnut shaped
out-of-focus highlights.
>I believe that Nikon also used to / still do make a mirror lens. Does
>anyone know anything about this?
It's another very good lens, but maybe shaded by the Sigma.
The Russian MTO lenses are also worth considering. There are two
focal lengths, 550mm and 1100mm.
Mark Dunn - 23 Feb 2004 17:46 GMT
T. P. <tp@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> >I have a Centon 500 F8 mirror lens, which I like for its size and
> >compactness, but feel that the image quality could be a lot better. I
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> who have older Sigma 600mm catadioptric (mirror) lenses and they get
> superb results.
> However all mirror lenses suffer from the same
> weaknesses, namely only one aperture and the strange, doughnut shaped
> out-of-focus highlights.
That is an inescapable feature of the catadioptric design and not down to
the maker.
> >I believe that Nikon also used to / still do make a mirror lens. Does
> >anyone know anything about this?
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> The Russian MTO lenses are also worth considering. There are two
> focal lengths, 550mm and 1100mm.
TP - 24 Feb 2004 00:56 GMT
>TP wrote:
>> However all mirror lenses suffer from the same
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>That is an inescapable feature of the catadioptric design and not down to
>the maker.
... which is the reason why I wrote "all mirror lenses suffer from the
same weaknesses".
You must have an honours degree in stating the bleeding obvious.
Pickle - 24 Feb 2004 22:21 GMT
I have used the
> Tamron 500mm extensively. There is also a 350mm. I have two friends
> who have older Sigma 600mm catadioptric (mirror) lenses and they get
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> The Russian MTO lenses are also worth considering. There are two
> focal lengths, 550mm and 1100mm.
Hi all (my first post on here, so forgive any poor etiquette please),
I have three of the above mirror lenses: Tamron 350/5.6, Tamron 500/8,
and MTO 1100/10.5 . The Tamrons are both of the SP series, which was
their premier line. The 350 in particular is very good, and not so
common. I notice pincushion distortion with the 500, particularly
with a sea horizon that goes across the top or bottom of the frame.
The 1100 is a real beast and greatly benefits from a camera with
mirror-lockup, to reduce the vibration. Even with a tripod (without
the mirror lock) you can get camera shake at 1/125! The slow speed is
a problem too, but I have used it for eclipse photos, and for last
year's transit of Mercury across the face of the Sun (using a suitable
filter I must add, which lets through 1/100,000 of the light and none
of the heat). It's not my sharpest lens, but great when you need
maximum pulling power. I hope to use it again in June (8th I
believe)when Venus transits the Sun for the first time since 1882 -
worth a look, but don't blind yourself!
David Byford - 26 Feb 2004 14:19 GMT
Thanks for all your comments everyone. It does sound as though it is
worth my while changing the Centon for a Tamron/Sigma/MTO depending on
which I can pick up. TheTamrons and Sigmas seem to appear fairly
regularly on ebay which is where I got the Centon from in the first
place.
David Byford
My email isn't funny
> I have used the
>> Tamron 500mm extensively. There is also a 350mm. I have two friends
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>believe)when Venus transits the Sun for the first time since 1882 -
>worth a look, but don't blind yourself!