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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ms1938/
Good description. Some thoughts added.
>Assuming you are referring to cameras, (surveyors use laser & ultrasonic
>rangefinders for measuring range), the term mainly relates to a class
>of cameras
>which were mainly popular before and after WWII. In the simpler models, the
>rangefinder had a separate viewing window, and by turning a knob or moving a
>lever, two images of your subject could be made to coincide.
Interestingly, this technique was first developed in the 19th century to
provide rangefinding for warships. The separation of the mirrors there
ran into 10s of feet, which gave much greater precision at long
distances (several miles). Short - base rangefinders lose precision at
medium-long distances, but then the lenses' focus sensitivity is also
less at these distances.
> The distance from
>camera to subject could then be read off a scale and transferred to the lens.
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>Compur between lens-element design, the term normally refers to the Leica focal
>plane shutter with interchangeable lenses.
The very latest rangefinder technology uses a motor to drive the
lens/rangefinder mirrors until a contrast detector determines the point
of focus. Some purists argue this type of camera is not a true
rangefinder, but this argument seems untenable to me. The Contax G2 is a
leading example, though I think the Konica Hexar is similar, and there
may be others. It is optically superb, much less quite than the Leica
type, but (arguably) more handy in use. [Stands back to wait for
vehement screams from flat-earthers]
>The benefits are that particularly with wide aperture wide-angle lenses, it is
>possible to get accurate focusing, which can be difficult using the SLR method.
Conversely, the rangefinder method works less well with long focal
length lenses; most makers give up at 90-100mm, though IIRC Leica go to
135mm.
>The lack of a reflex mirror makes the camera quieter than an SLR, and
>the Leica,
By pre-setting the focus, the simple mechanical types (Leica) have a
shorter shutter lag than most SLR cameras, making it easier to capture
the "decisive moment". However, this is less so or not so with automated
types such as the Contax G2, which unfortunately insist on going through
the whole focus range for each shot. (And for the ultimate in low lag
time none of them can match the EOS 1nRS, at 6ms - but only when used in
RS mode.)
>in particular, was favoured by some of the exponents of candid street
>photography (such as Cartier Bresson) for its quietness, and general
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>I've listed,
>but I certainly haven't see many in use recently.
The Mamiya MF6/7 Range is very popular with landscape/travel
photographers, and is still current (at least the 7/II is). They are
probably not the best choice for street work, but this is mainly because
changing 120 film takes several times as long as changing 35mm film, and
has to be done every 12 (MF6) or 10 (MF7) shots instead of every 36.
Optically they are excellent. For the ultimate in rangefinders, try the
Linhof Technika 5x4 camera, which actually has a split-image rangefinder
matched to a cam for each lens. It works, though most workers with these
cameras nowadays are doing landscape/architecture and always use the
focus screen.
>Compared to the average film SLR of a few years ago, rangefinder bodies were
>slimmer, but being made of metal rather than plastic, could be quite heavy, and
>therefore exuded a feeling of quality!.

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David Littlewood
>They are still very popular with their adherents for the advantages I've listed,
>but I certainly haven't see many in use recently.
You must walk around with your eyes firmly shut. Either that or you
are trying to project your own personal prejudices (and/or lack of
knowledge) onto others.
The introduction of the Voigtländer Bessa and Konica Hexar series of
rangefinder camera bodies and lenses has *hugely* expanded the market
for these cameras. Previously, the market was confined mainly to
Leica and various Soviet Leica-based products.
As a result of these introductions, sales of 35mm rangefinder cameras
have increased dramatically, to levels not seen since the 1970s.
Obviously, sales of all 35mm film cameras have been hit with the move
to digital, but rangefinder sales are holding up much better than
sales of 35mm SLRs - and very much better than 35mm compact cameras
which are the hardest hit.
David Littlewood - 27 Jan 2004 16:48 GMT
>>They are still very popular with their adherents for the advantages
>>I've listed,
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>sales of 35mm SLRs - and very much better than 35mm compact cameras
>which are the hardest hit.
I had assumed Malcolm was referring to RF cameras in formats larger than
35mm; on re-reading his post I may have been wrong - there is a glitch
(at least when it got to me) at that point in his post. I agree there
has been an enormous resurgence of interest in 35mm rangefinders in the
last few years; I would be surprised if Malcolm were not aware of that.

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David Littlewood
> Assuming you are referring to cameras, (surveyors use laser & ultrasonic
> rangefinders for measuring range),
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Just to summarise the important (to me) bits of the benefits:
They are small, light and whisper quiet.

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