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Qucik query on telephoto lenses and multipliers...

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richard<fullstop>horton - 24 Jan 2004 20:58 GMT
Just a sanity check for my tired brain...

I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens (one of the IS / L
models).... anyway part of my reason for this is:-

1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...

2. With a 1.4x extender I get a 420mm f4.5...

3. With a 2.0x extender I get a 600mm f5.6...

Is this right or am I talking out my bum as usual... ;>

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A.Lee - 24 Jan 2004 21:40 GMT
> I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens  
> 1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...
> 2. With a 1.4x extender I get a 420mm f4.5...

Obviously depending on which convertor you get, but more like f5.6/6

> 3. With a 2.0x extender I get a 600mm f5.6...

No, f8
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Richard Horton - 24 Jan 2004 21:47 GMT
>> I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens
>> 1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> No, f8
> Alan.

Oh nuts.

There goes my AF...

What would people recommend as an affordable (IE below say £1500) long
telephoto for photographing birds such as Red Kites (which tend to fly
quite high and can't be approached too closely as they're protected)...

Thanks,

Richard.
(My primary body is an EOS-30 - I may be upgrading to an EOS-3 at some point
but not sure as I do like my 30 and would rather invest in lenses at the
moment - only reason for an upgrade to the 3 at the moment would be the
weather proofing).
dslr - 24 Jan 2004 22:51 GMT
> >> I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens
> >> 1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> moment - only reason for an upgrade to the 3 at the moment would be the
> weather proofing).

I don't know if it'll work on an EOS30 (it does on the digitals) but
there is a trick where you insulate three of the contacts on the
extender and the camera no longer knows it's there. AF is not disabled,
although it will be less reliable if your effective max aperture is f8.
If it's any use, the URL is http://www.fredmiranda.com/TipsPage/ - first
entry.

Alternatively not all 3rd party teleconverters disable Canon AF,
althought the the point about it being less reliable at f8 still
applies.

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dslr

Povl H. Pedersen - 24 Jan 2004 22:54 GMT
>>> I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens
>>> 1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Oh nuts.

One stop = 2, half stop = square root 2 = approx 1.4.
You have to multiply the aperture by the extender factor.

> There goes my AF...

5.6 is doable. So a Canon 1.4 should just work.

> What would people recommend as an affordable (IE below say £1500) long
> telephoto for photographing birds such as Red Kites (which tend to fly
> quite high and can't be approached too closely as they're protected)...

Get a Canon EOS 300D or 10D. Gives you 1.6x magnification for free
(because of the crop factor).
Stephen Leslie - 25 Jan 2004 19:09 GMT
Hi Richard,

Another option would be attaching the camera to a spottong scope, as there
are adapters available for slr's via T-2 mounts.

While focusing may be an issue in certain situations, I expect that the
majority of the time you would be at infinity anyway.

I guess for more knowledge look up bird-watching threads/groups and even
look out for a photo mag called Landscape Photography?

Cheers,
Stephen

> >>> I'm looking at getting 300mm f4 EF prime lens
> >>> 1. It's probably the biggest decent prime lens I can afford...
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Get a Canon EOS 300D or 10D. Gives you 1.6x magnification for free
> (because of the crop factor).
richard<fullstop>horton - 26 Jan 2004 21:57 GMT
> Hi Richard,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I guess for more knowledge look up bird-watching threads/groups and even
> look out for a photo mag called Landscape Photography?

I did try looking into this option a while back but while I can find
alot of information on digiscoping I can't find much on using a film
camera with spotting scopes. I do know my EOS-30 might well have
problems so my EOS-600 might well be called upon to try this but
spending money on a spotting scope on the chance it might work isn't
something i'm too keen on when my ideal setup is only around £1500 (A
100 - 400 IS or the 300l f4 + 1.4)
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