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Passport Photos
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Chris J Dixon - 11 Aug 2008 10:34 GMT The instructions for UK passport photos now say:
>Must be printed professionally. Photographs printed at home are not likely to be of an acceptable quality. the fuller instructions for professionals adds:
>Photos must be printed on high quality, medium / low gloss or matt photographic paper. Photos produced at home are unlikely to be acceptable, as they will not meet the high standards delivered by professional equipment and may not allow us to capture an accurate biometric, leading to potential difficulties when travelling Has anybody had recent experience of acceptance or rejection of home printing?
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Alan Wrigley - 11 Aug 2008 11:46 GMT > Has anybody had recent experience of acceptance or rejection of > home printing? Depends on your definition of 'recent'. I got a new passport two years ago with a home-printed photo, taken on a Canon 300D and printed on an Epson R1800. This probably doesn't class as 'home-printed' by their definition.
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Rob Morley - 11 Aug 2008 12:53 GMT > Has anybody had recent experience of acceptance or rejection of > home printing? I used the machine in Boots without a problem.
Mark Dunn - 11 Aug 2008 19:05 GMT I took mine myself, but sent them to paspic for printing. At £3.50 it wasn't worth risking a pack of photo paper. It is the first time I haven't printed my own since 1977, though.
> > Has anybody had recent experience of acceptance or rejection of > > home printing? > > > I used the machine in Boots without a problem. Trev - 11 Aug 2008 20:59 GMT > The instructions for UK passport photos now say: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Chris I had the picks for my new bus pass returned with all kinds of excuses because I did not use a Photo me Booth. So sent a out of focus low res set from the Booth and they where accepted. The first one's where sharp and much better and the one used on my old pass.
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AnotherD@rnedSock - 12 Aug 2008 10:38 GMT >> The instructions for UK passport photos now say: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > from the Booth and they where accepted. The first one's where sharp and much > better and the one used on my old pass. Last year I did some for a few people from work who were taking a Christmas vacation in the Islands. One guy I don't like much I changed the color of his eyes thinking it would cause him a headache. No one, including him, noticed. So much for increased security.
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Harry Stottle - 12 Aug 2008 12:16 GMT > Last year I did some for a few people from work who were taking a > Christmas vacation in the Islands. One guy I don't like much I changed > the color of his eyes thinking it would cause him a headache. No one, > including him, noticed. So much for increased security. In the UK, the latest driving licenses are in black and white, which is mentioned as an enhanced security feature, so a different eye colour would not be a problem on those :-)
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DG_068315
Poldie - 13 Aug 2008 21:44 GMT >> Last year I did some for a few people from work who were taking a >> Christmas vacation in the Islands. One guy I don't like much I changed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DG_068315 Not wishing to be pedantic (oh, who am I kidding - I love it!) but you *have* to submit a colour photo - they turn it into a black and white one on the ID card.
Harry Stottle - 13 Aug 2008 22:22 GMT >>> Last year I did some for a few people from work who were taking a >>> Christmas vacation in the Islands. One guy I don't like much I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > *have* to submit a colour photo - they turn it into a black and white > one on the ID card. Not to be pedantic, but where did I state that a black and white photo had to be submitted?
Grimly Curmudgeon - 14 Aug 2008 14:44 GMT We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "AnotherD@rnedSock" < @> saying something like:
>Last year I did some for a few people from work who were taking a Christmas >vacation in the Islands. One guy I don't like much I changed the color of >his eyes thinking it would cause him a headache. No one, including him, >noticed. So much for increased security. Genuine LOL!
Aye, it's getting harder to enter the Western Isles.
Should have done some subtle PlaStic surgery on him, so that cumulatively he looked just enough like himself to fool him, but different enough to get a security bod interested.
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Geoff Berrow - 14 Aug 2008 14:47 GMT Message-ID: <g81cr8$2gd$1@registered.motzarella.org> from Grimly Curmudgeon contained the following:
>Should have done some subtle PlaStic surgery on him, so that >cumulatively he looked just enough like himself to fool him, but >different enough to get a security bod interested. It's amazing just how much you can do without people noticing.
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Rob Morley - 12 Aug 2008 12:57 GMT > I had the picks for my new bus pass returned with all kinds of > excuses because I did not use a Photo me Booth. So sent a out of > focus low res set from the Booth and they where accepted. The first > one's where sharp and much better and the one used on my old pass. ISTM that with passport pics you only need the correct size, aspect and background, and flat lighting.
Harry Stottle - 12 Aug 2008 18:52 GMT >> I had the picks for my new bus pass returned with all kinds of >> excuses because I did not use a Photo me Booth. So sent a out of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and > background, and flat lighting. The main concern seems to be to allow face recognition software to read the photograph properly, so it needs to check various points on the face carefully, and when combined, those points would be unique to only a small proportion of people. If someone's face is on a wanted list, an alarm could be triggered, and further investigation would follow. I would expect that in future, when you hand over your passport, the photograph will be scanned and compared to an actual picture of your face, taken from a nearby security camera, this way, if the pictures don't tally exactly, again it will trigger an alarm, this would help to cut out human error when immigration personnel are busy and could miss slight differences. Face recognition software could also help if someone is using multiple passports with the same picture and different names, as this could also trigger an alarm, so passport photos need to be very clear on facial features like the position of the eyes, nose and mouth, and possibly ears, and if these are not clear, the photo will probably be rejected.
Poldie - 13 Aug 2008 21:45 GMT >> I had the picks for my new bus pass returned with all kinds of >> excuses because I did not use a Photo me Booth. So sent a out of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ISTM that with passport pics you only need the correct size, aspect and > background, and flat lighting. And also that they're printed "professionally", and that photographs printed at home are not likely to be of an acceptable quality, it would appear!
Rob Morley - 13 Aug 2008 23:31 GMT > > ISTM that with passport pics you only need the correct size, aspect > > and background, and flat lighting. > > And also that they're printed "professionally", If I use the machine at Boots/ASDA/Jessops I'm paying them to do it, so it's professional.
> and that photographs > printed at home are not likely to be of an acceptable quality, it > would appear! Mine aren't - I only have a mono laser printer.
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