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John - 12 May 2008 15:07 GMT
I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.

The last time I took some passport photos I used a projection screen for the
background. I have just read the requirements on the UK Passports web site
and see it now requests "Light Gray or Cream".

https://www.ips.gov.uk/passport/downloads/photos.pdf

Any thoughts on this spec? I guess I might have to use a booth - however, I
don't trust the grandson to keep a straight face.
Geoff. Hayward - 12 May 2008 15:11 GMT
>I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>
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>of 4 for a fiver.  They are done manually so you could wait 'til the
>expression on your grandson's face is appropriate.

HTH,

Geoff.
John - 12 May 2008 15:40 GMT
>>I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>>
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>That's a good price. Will check out our shops (I think we only have a
>Jessops and a Jacobs - I doubt they would do it but will check)
Trev - 12 May 2008 18:05 GMT
>I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>
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> Any thoughts on this spec? I guess I might have to use a booth - however,
> I don't trust the grandson to keep a straight face.

They can be very awarkward about paper type finish ect. It best to use a
both or something like quicksnaps
Graculus - 13 May 2008 19:08 GMT
>>I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>>
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> They can be very awarkward about paper type finish ect. It best to use a
> both or something like quicksnaps
They suggest you don't print them yourself.

However, I did some of my own against an off-white painted wall. If done at
a high resolution and quality, it's then fairly straighforward to
- straighten up any wonkiness
- resize and crop to exactly fit the various dimension limits (size of
picture, size and position of head)
- copy and paste several times to create 8 identical frames in a 6x4" print
- send that 6x4 image off to your favourite photo printing service.
Make sure you do your measurements and scaling carefully - a calculator
helps!

The IPS accepted these (even though there was a bit of a watermark on the
back of the print, which is cotrary to their specifications)
AnthonyL - 13 May 2008 12:21 GMT
>I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>
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>Any thoughts on this spec? I guess I might have to use a booth - however, I
>don't trust the grandson to keep a straight face.

I went to a photo booth outside Sainsbury's recently and IIRC it gave
me the opportunity to preview the photo on screen before choosing
either to print or retake it.  There may have been a limit of 2 or 3
goes but I know I wasn't happy with the first one so took it again.

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Roger Blackwell - 14 May 2008 14:16 GMT
> I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>
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> Any thoughts on this spec? I guess I might have to use a booth - however, I
> don't trust the grandson to keep a straight face.

I did some for my stepfather a while back and the criterion is not that
difficult.  Have you a cream sheet or something to throw over your projector
screen to use as a background?

Roger
John - 14 May 2008 15:53 GMT
>> I need to get a photo of my 6 year old grandson for a passport renewal.
>>
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>
> Roger

Had a dummy run at it yesterday - we have an off-white (Ivory) wall.  Need
to get the screen out of the loft to serve as a reflector
Bruce - 14 May 2008 18:13 GMT
>Had a dummy run at it yesterday - we have an off-white (Ivory) wall.  Need
>to get the screen out of the loft to serve as a reflector

What's wrong with bouncing the flash off the ceiling?
John - 15 May 2008 09:13 GMT
>>Had a dummy run at it yesterday - we have an off-white (Ivory) wall.  Need
>>to get the screen out of the loft to serve as a reflector
>
> What's wrong with bouncing the flash off the ceiling?

Alas - my digital camera has only a small built in flash. My old SLRs were
more versatile and I still have a good flashgun with bounce facility but no
(easy) way of using it with my fairly basic digitals. I am not going to
attempt 35mm as I feel I need the ability to review and crop in the PC.

I hope to use daylight and avoid any harsh shadow on the background.
Bruce - 15 May 2008 19:20 GMT
>>>Had a dummy run at it yesterday - we have an off-white (Ivory) wall.  Need
>>>to get the screen out of the loft to serve as a reflector
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>
>I hope to use daylight and avoid any harsh shadow on the background.

Thanks, John.  That makes it clearer.
OG - 18 May 2008 18:15 GMT
>>>Had a dummy run at it yesterday - we have an off-white (Ivory) wall.
>>>Need
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> more versatile and I still have a good flashgun with bounce facility but
> no (easy) way of using it with my fairly basic digitals.

You should be able to get a slave adaptor for about a fiver so that the
digital's flash can set off the other flashgun.

You would probably need to turn off anti red-eye (the pre-flash would fire
the slave prematurely) and you may want to block out most of the width of
the digital's flash so it's not overexposing.
sales@dtphotography.tv - 10 Jun 2008 11:10 GMT
Hi John,

As a photographer in Goole, East Yorkshire, we photograph children’s
portraits & passports every week.
The new passport regulations are VERY stringent indeed. Some leeway is
allowed for children under 6 but over that age the pictures must
comply with adult specifications. for biometric scanning.
If you wish to attempt it yourself & you have the relevant lighting,
camera & equipment available to do it then you will have some fun
interacting with your 6 year old, but if your on a tight deadline
e.g.: within 8 weeks from your holiday I'd suggest seeing a local
photographer who has specialisation in passports.

As your first passport can now take 6 weeks as you may need to attend
an interview, if your pictures are rejected, you slide to the
beginning of the queue.

If you do this yourself you can buy 10% grey paper on rolls from
photographic suppliers. but you must ensure your subject is at least
100-150 cm in front of the background so you don't get shadows on it.
You lights & camera all have to be at eye level to reduce eye socket
shadows, the lights have to be in an equidistant position from your
camera at circa 15 degrees from the camera/subject line of sight. You
should use a soft box on your lights too, it reduces red eye & softens
the reflections in your child’s eyes.
As a rule of thumb you should see both ears & have a neutral
expression (which is tricky to do when your child has been force fed
"Smile & say Cheese" every time a camera is in front of them. They get
confused).

So all the above being taken into account I'd generally suggest you
enjoy your holiday knowing that you got a picture & more importantly a
passport on time via a local professional.

I hope this advice helps you to get on your holiday with your son.

Regards

dtphotography - goole - East Yorkshire
 
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