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norman - 12 Mar 2008 11:55 GMT
I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced. Failing
which is there a market for FD fit lenses
Garry Douglas - 12 Mar 2008 12:38 GMT
>I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
> Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced. Failing
> which is there a market for FD fit lenses

Don't know about the internal battery for a T90 but there is a market for
everything on eBay. Just don't waste time hoping to get a decent price for
old 35mm kit from your local photo store (if you are even lucky enough to
have a local store!) unless you have something exotic like a shift lens, a
fast long telephoto or a fisheye and even then you will probably still do
better online than in a bricks and mortar store.

Assuming you can't resolve the problem with the battery, what  FD mount
lenses are you looking to sell?

HTH

Garry
norman - 12 Mar 2008 13:10 GMT
On 12 Mar, 11:38, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:

> >I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
> > Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced. Failing
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>
> Garry

I have a Canon f1,8 28mm,
Canon f1.8 50mm,
Canon f1.8 85mm,
Vivitar f3.5/4.5 28-70mm zoom,
Hoya f3.8 70-150mm zoom
Hoya f5.6 300mm

You have confirmed what the man in the camera shop said when I bought
my 350D, they didnt want to know
Roger Blackwell - 12 Mar 2008 13:40 GMT
On 12 Mar, 11:38, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:
> "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Garry

I have a Canon f1,8 28mm,
Canon f1.8 50mm,
Canon f1.8 85mm,
Vivitar f3.5/4.5 28-70mm zoom,
Hoya f3.8 70-150mm zoom
Hoya f5.6 300mm

You have confirmed what the man in the camera shop said when I bought
my 350D, they didnt want to know

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Prices are quite low for FD lenses and unless you really need the money and
never intend to use manual focus again then it is probably better to hang on
to them.  If you get no joy repairing the T90, old Canon FD fitting bodies
are also cheap these days.  I haven't used my FD lenses for about 4 years
but one of these days I'll just have a nostalgia trip (it catches up with
those of us who are old and grey at some point).  I still have a lot of
respect for my old lenses and know they are capable of good results even
though digital is much more convenient.

Roger
Garry Douglas - 12 Mar 2008 15:01 GMT
On 12 Mar, 11:38, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:
> "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:be20c9d3-da9e-4bb6-8e0b-b815ace94ebf@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> I have a Canon f1,8 28mm,
> Canon f1.8 50mm,
> Canon f1.8 85mm,
> Vivitar f3.5/4.5 28-70mm zoom,
> Hoya f3.8 70-150mm zoom
> Hoya f5.6 300mm

> You have confirmed what the man in the camera shop said when I bought
> my 350D, they didnt want to know

The 85/1.8 is a nice portrait lens. Had one for a while but sold it off.

I had much the same problem 3 years ago when I was trying to sell off some
equipment  to fund the purchase of my 350D kit.

The prices I was being quoted for a mint condition USM 300/4 L from Jessops
and a couple of other stores in Central London were derisory so I listed it
on eBay. It sold within 30 minutes of the listing being uploaded and I
received almost twice what I was being offered from the stores (£475
compared to £250). Remember that this was for a current mount that will fit
any of the EOS film and digital SLR range, not an older FD mount lens!

Unless you sell everything as a kit I would suggest you hang on to them. You
could probably find a reasonable condition FD mount body for a good price or
they always look good in a glass cabinet :-)
Garry Douglas - 12 Mar 2008 16:10 GMT
> On 12 Mar, 11:38, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
> wrote:
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> You could probably find a reasonable condition FD mount body for a good
> price or they always look good in a glass cabinet :-)

Alternatively, there are a few T90s on eBay right now:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?ht=1&from=R4&saatc=3&salic=3%26saatc%
3D-1&satitle=T90&sacat=625%26catref%3DC6

norman - 12 Mar 2008 16:28 GMT
On 12 Mar, 15:10, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:

> > On 12 Mar, 11:38, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?ht=1&from=R4&saatc=3&salic...

Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
A1 which actually lknocked spots off the T90 so I might look for one
of those
Garry Douglas - 12 Mar 2008 17:50 GMT
Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
A1 which actually lknocked spots off the T90 so I might look for one
of those

I still have my old A1 and F1n gathering dust but can't bear to part with
either. Don't suppose the A1 would fetch much now but up until a couple of
years ago the F1n body was still selling for more than I paid for it in
1983. Talk about inflation proof :-)  The F1n was built like the Battleship
Potemkin and unfortunately handled like it as well in some respects but it
was a camera that would work under any conditions.

Garry
Fred Anonymous - 12 Mar 2008 20:28 GMT
Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
A1 which actually lknocked spots off the T90 so I might look for one
of those

================

Hi.

I'm curious - what was the advantage of the A1 over the T90? I had an A1 and
swapped to the T90 due to some shortcomings of the A1.

Regards,  Ian.
Roger Blackwell - 12 Mar 2008 22:52 GMT
> Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
> replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
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>
> Regards,  Ian.

I just think the older Canon bodies were built to last longer.  I had to bin
a T90 about 8 years ago because of serious faults yet the older bodies just
kept going and going.

Roger
norman - 13 Mar 2008 12:16 GMT
> Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
> replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Regards,  Ian.

It was along time ago and my memory is'nt so good, but I still regard
the A1 with affection. I believe it was the way it handled nice and
snug in the hand, not so complicated and  felt lighter even if it
was'nt. I took some pretty good glamour shots mostly with the 85mm.
The only drawback that I remember was having to get a special
attachment for the hot shoe to be able to use off camers flash, but
that seems to be standard now.
Garry Douglas - 13 Mar 2008 12:40 GMT
On 12 Mar, 19:28, "Fred Anonymous" <a...@anon.org> wrote:
> "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Regards, Ian.

> It was along time ago and my memory is'nt so good, but I still regard
> the A1 with affection. I believe it was the way it handled nice and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> attachment for the hot shoe to be able to use off camers flash, but
> that seems to be standard now.

I also liked the A1. It handled well and had more than enough useful
features to keep me happy. It wasn't particularly heavy (say compared to an
F1 or a house brick) but it was nicely balanced and felt solid, unlike some
of the current dSLRs. My EOS350D always feels too light even after three
years of use and I find it difficult to hold steady with long non IS lenses
attached. Can't comment on the T90 because I've never used one but it always
looked a bit plasticy to me although I'm sure it was a good camera.

Garry
Fred Anonymous - 13 Mar 2008 20:13 GMT
On 12 Mar, 19:28, "Fred Anonymous" <a...@anon.org> wrote:

>> Thanks Gary and Nospam, I have have asked Canon if the battery can be
>> replaced and it is a great idea to keep the lenses. I used to have a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> Regards, Ian.

>It was along time ago and my memory is'nt so good, but I still regard
>the A1 with affection. I believe it was the way it handled nice and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>attachment for the hot shoe to be able to use off camers flash, but
>that seems to be standard now.

=======================

Hello Norman.

The A1 had a standard hot shoe and just needed an off-shoe cord in order to
use a flash off the body.
The F1 needed an adaptor to accept a hot shoe flash or hot shoe cord, if I
remember. Its standard flash connector was a PC socket (once again, if I
remember correctly).

I had an A1 and changed to a T90 (20 years old and still working) which gave
me the following advantages:

- vertical metal shutter rather than a fabric horizontal one gave me a
higher flash sync speed and hand-holding at a lower shutter speed;

- spot metering;

- TTL flash;

- motor drive;

On the other hand, the A1 was much more compact than the T90 - something I
appreciated when I went travelling with the T90.

Regards, Ian.
Garry Douglas - 13 Mar 2008 23:56 GMT
> The A1 had a standard hot shoe and just needed an off-shoe cord in order
> to use a flash off the body.

> The F1 needed an adaptor to accept a hot shoe flash or hot shoe cord, if I
> remember. Its standard flash connector was a PC socket (once again, if I
> remember correctly).

Just had a look at my old  A1 and F1n. The A1 indeed has a standard hot shoe
and a PC socket. I never had a Canon flash (used Vivitar instead) but can't
for the life of me remember how I handled off camera flash. I'm fairly sure
my 5600 had a removable dedicated Canon module so there may have been a
module extension lead that fitted in the hot shoe..

The F1n also has a standard hot shoe and a PC socket but I have the AE head
on it and am not sure about the standard head.

> I had an A1 and changed to a T90 (20 years old and still working) which
> gave me the following advantages:
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>
> - motor drive;

The A1 had a moror drive. You just had to screw it on the bottom of the body
:-)

Garry
Fred Anonymous - 14 Mar 2008 19:56 GMT
>> The A1 had a standard hot shoe and just needed an off-shoe cord in order
>> to use a flash off the body.
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>
> Garry

Hi Garry.

I think (please don't make me try to find the leaflets and books about the
A1) that the A1 had a choice of autowinder or motor drive.

For me, that vertical metal shutter of the T90 was noticeably better than
the horizontal cloth shutter of the A1. This still doesn't detract from the
fact that the A1 was a major landmark in its day.

Regards, Ian.
Garry Douglas - 14 Mar 2008 22:28 GMT
>>> The A1 had a standard hot shoe and just needed an off-shoe cord in order
>>> to use a flash off the body.
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> I think (please don't make me try to find the leaflets and books about the
> A1) that the A1 had a choice of autowinder or motor drive.

I have the 5fps motor drive with the detachable battery pack but I can't
remember an auto winder. I think the MD takes 12 or 16 AA batteries and
weighed a ton but I could be wrong!  Seem to recall there was also a Ni-Cad
battery pack which cost a small fortune However I do have the A1 manual
reasonably handy so will check what was available.

The F1n on the other hand did have both power winder and motor drive
options. I only had the pwer winder but sold it years ago.
Garry Douglas - 14 Mar 2008 22:44 GMT
> I have the 5fps motor drive with the detachable battery pack but I can't
> remember an auto winder. I think the MD takes 12 or 16 AA batteries and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> The F1n on the other hand did have both power winder and motor drive
> options. I only had the pwer winder but sold it years ago.

Just looked in the A1 manual. There was a Power Winder A and the motor drive
was designated MA.

One point I had completely forgotten about the F1n is that although it
operated in manual and aperture priority AE mode with the AE finder FN
fitted, attaching the AE Power Winder FN or AE Motor Drive FN added shutter
priority AE to the mix.

Garry
norman - 14 Mar 2008 10:33 GMT
> On 12 Mar, 19:28, "Fred Anonymous" <a...@anon.org> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>
> Regards, Ian.

Hello Fred,
told you my memory had gone. I checked for  myself and you are right.
in fact I found in my camera bag the hot shoe attachment for the T90.
I now have an answer to my original question ie replacement of the
internal battery. Fixation uk can't do it any more but Colchester
Camera Repair service can for £30.00 + vat
Garry Douglas - 14 Mar 2008 11:22 GMT
"norman" <lovell28@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hello Fred,
> told you my memory had gone. I checked for  myself and you are right.
> in fact I found in my camera bag the hot shoe attachment for the T90.
> I now have an answer to my original question ie replacement of the
> internal battery. Fixation uk can't do it any more but Colchester
> Camera Repair service can for £30.00 + vat

There goes my hope of picking up an FD 85/1.8 on the cheap :-)

Garry
norman - 15 Mar 2008 12:57 GMT
On 14 Mar, 10:22, "Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com>
wrote:
> "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Garry

You are right Garry, I can now use the T90 as my second string and
give my wife back her EOS 650. I with you about the lghtness of the
350D, with a 70-210 zoom it is not easy to keep it steady. of course
we are always told to use a tripod, but my old Cullman weighs a ton.
Garry Douglas - 15 Mar 2008 14:14 GMT
> You are right Garry, I can now use the T90 as my second string and
> give my wife back her EOS 650. I with you about the lghtness of the
> 350D, with a 70-210 zoom it is not easy to keep it steady. of course
> we are always told to use a tripod, but my old Cullman weighs a ton.

I put the problems  I have with my left shoulder down to years of carrying
far too much kit in a large bag. Should have used a vest or a backpack
instead! These days I prefer to travel light (when I can be arsed to leave
the house!) and don't mind compromising some quality for convenience but I
would still like the 350D to be heavier. It's lovely carrying around a light
body but it does sometimes have it's drawbacks. Some of my old FD lenses are
heavier than the 350D. Also I only have average size hands but I still find
the 350D a little small but I can't fault the quality of the results and all
the controls fall easily to hand. I used to have an OM1 and OM4 so small
bodies shouldn't be a problem but I think years if using larger Canon bodies
and lenses made of real glass have conditioned me :-)

Garry
Roger Blackwell - 14 Mar 2008 14:34 GMT
On 13 Mar, 19:13, "Fred Anonymous" <a...@anon.org> wrote:
> "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> Regards, Ian.

Hello Fred,
told you my memory had gone. I checked for  myself and you are right.
in fact I found in my camera bag the hot shoe attachment for the T90.
I now have an answer to my original question ie replacement of the
internal battery. Fixation uk can't do it any more but Colchester
Camera Repair service can for £30.00 + vat

Sounds good to me.

Roger
Mark Dunn - 14 Mar 2008 16:39 GMT
"norman" <lovell28@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:02653b02-c30b-
412b-96df-0c2489a51153@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com
> > "norman" <lovel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> attachment for the hot shoe to be able to use off camers flash, but
> that seems to be standard now.
The A1 has a PC socket.
Michael J Davis - 12 Mar 2008 13:31 GMT
norman <lovell28@btinternet.com> observed
>I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
>Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced.

Can't help there...
>Failing
>which is there a market for FD fit lenses

Try wwww.ffordes.com  it may take time, but I've sold old Leica stuff
there and got reasonable rates.

Mike

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Nospam - 12 Mar 2008 15:23 GMT
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norman <lovell28@btinternet.com> writes
>I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
>Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced. Failing
>which is there a market for FD fit lenses

Contact Canon and ask them for a price to change the battery.

I will be having a similar issue in a year or two as my T90 is getting
on a bit.

Now using a Nikon D300 so don't expect to use theT90 anymore but as you
have found out, there is very little offered for 'obsolete' equipment.

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Tony Polson - 13 Mar 2008 00:30 GMT
>I have a Canon T90 and the internal battery has given up the ghost.
>Does anybody know if it is still possible to get it replaced. Failing
>which is there a market for FD fit lenses

Ask these people; they are Canon authorised repairers and come very
highly recommended:

http://www.fixationuk.com/
mailto:info@fixationuk.com
Tel: 020 7582 3294
 
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