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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / UK Photography / March 2008Canon G9 or the EOS 400D
I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am still non the wiser. Anyway, I have come up with either the Canon G9 or the EOS 400D and wanted to ask here what is the best camera. I wanted to point and shoot initially and then have the features there to learn about so I can grow into it. Thanks for the help > I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so > see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for the help If you cant tell the difference buy a fishing rod  SignatureTrev You can always tell a Yorkshire man, But you can't tell him much. >> I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so >> see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > If you cant tell the difference buy a fishing rod Very helpfull thanks. I wasnt aware you could take photo's with a rod. >>> I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so >>> see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > Very helpfull thanks. I wasnt aware you could take photo's with a rod. Dslr has a larger sensor so less noise but the G 9 is one of the best of bridge cameras and probably produces a better image then the D400. The lens on the G9 will be better then the kit lens that comes with the D400 but then the D 400 can use Other lens both Wide and Longer That does mean that you could get dust on the sensor which will not happen with the G9. In the end its down to what you are going to use it for. Not all of us fell a need for a DSLR and a bag of lens(Especially at my age) Though I personally would not go for the G9 It is Very good Quality. I did have a Casio 3000 that was very much like the G1 Same lens and sensor ect. But I went for a Minolta 7hi then a Fuji 9600 rather then a dslr all the benefits and less weight to carry around SignatureTrev You can always tell a Yorkshire man, But you can't tell him much. >>>> I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so >>>> see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > went for a Minolta 7hi then a Fuji 9600 rather then a dslr all the > benefits and less weight to carry around Thanks trev Can i ask why you wouldnt go for the G9? >Can i ask why you wouldnt go for the G9? 1) Inability to control depth of field due to the small sensor. 2) Excessive sensor noise at high ISOs. 3) Inability to accept any of the huge range of high quality lenses that fit the 400D. >>Can i ask why you wouldnt go for the G9? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 3) Inability to accept any of the huge range of high quality lenses > that fit the 400D. If I bought them both for instance, set them both to Auto, would I be able to tell what camera took what photo? I am not getting into photography, merely want holiday snaps that are god enough to frame etc. I wnder if the G9 would suit me just fine. Thanks for the help its apreciated >If I bought them both for instance, set them both to Auto, would I be able >to tell what camera took what photo? If you knew what to look for, yes. >I am not getting into photography, merely want holiday snaps that are god >enough to frame etc. I wnder if the G9 would suit me just fine. In that case, I think the G9 will suit you better than a DSLR, but I wonder if you need to spend all that money on a G9. A cheaper camera might suit you perfectly. The G9 is for someone who is "getting into photography". For holiday snaps that are good enough to frame, a cheaper camera may be all that you need. The FujiFilm Finepix F series are well worth looking at, such as the F30, F31 or F40, because they offer remarkably low sensor noise. The latest F50 and F100 models try to cram too many pixels on the sensor with an increase in noise, so are best avoided. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujifilm_FinePix_F-series The earlier models are often sold at very attractive prices at ASDA. The F40fd has a face detection feature and is outstanding value at £125, down from £199: http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/fuji/finepix/grey.html? >>If I bought them both for instance, set them both to Auto, would I be >>able [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/fuji/finepix/grey.html? I would entirely agree with that. I have a Canon Ixus 60 as a pocket camera to use when my Nikon D70s is too much. Trouble is it is often difficult to tell (in jpg) which camera took which picture!! I bought a Fuji F47fd just before Christmas for it's face recognition capabilites for a party and I have been amazed by the results. I bought my daughter the F30 early last year for a trip to the US and the quality it produced was superb. The F31fd is the same camera with face detection and is arguably the best of this range that Fuji have produced. It is now technically obsolete but there are some still to be found, or even refurbished units from the Fuji on-line shop. The F40fd/F45fd/F47fd are the same camera, save I think the F40 is pink, the F45 is blue and only from Argos, and the F47 is silver and only from Curry's. I managed to get the F47 when it was 99.99 (it had be a tenner cheaper the week before!) but it was back up to 129.99 last time I saw it. Note one thing: none of these Fuji cameras have a viewfinder, whereas most of the Ixus range do - of a fashion. The Fuji certainly produces less picture noise but has very little in the way of manual override, whereas the Ixus range gives you much more control and some say has a better lens possibly at the expense of a more limited (film) speed range to avoid the noise. SignatureWoody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com >I would entirely agree with that. I have a Canon Ixus 60 as a pocket >camera to use when my Nikon D70s is too much. Trouble is it is often [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >better lens possibly at the expense of a more limited (film) speed range >to avoid the noise. Thanks for that, Woody. I hope Simon finds our comments useful. >>Can i ask why you wouldnt go for the G9? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 3) Inability to accept any of the huge range of high quality lenses > that fit the 400D. 4) Response speed 5) Accesory options >>>>> I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net >>>>> so see what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Can i ask why you wouldnt go for the G9? Because I moved on to longer Zooms If the g9 or should say the G series had 28mm to 200 it would have been top of the list SignatureTrev You can always tell a Yorkshire man, But you can't tell him much. >I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so see >what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am still non [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for the help Simon There are a number of differences (quality, handling and price to name but three) between even a sophisticated p+s and a prosumer dSLR but perhaps the biggest difference is that with the P+S you are limited to the integral zoom lens and flash on the camera whereas a dSLR will accept interchangeable lenses and other system accessories such as flash units and therefore has far greater potential and flexibility. I've used a 350D for nearly three years and although it allows you to take full control over exposure and composition it also has a couple of modes where it acts as a glorified p+s if required and I assume the 400D is similar in that regard If you buy one you can use it that way to begin with and then gradually explore it's other features as your confidence, curiosity and creativity blossom. HTH Garry >>I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so see >>what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am still non [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Garry Yes brilliant thanks Garry. >I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so see >what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am still non [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for the help Thank You everyone very helpfull. I will let you know what i decide on >I am looking to buy a new camera. I have tried looking on the net so see >what the difference is between compact digital and a DSLR. I am still non [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks for the help I eventually went for the G9 as I thought it would be easier to use. I cannot for the life of me get it onto the RAW mode. I have read the manual tilll I am blue in the face but I still cannot do it. Canm anyone help please. Also where is the timelapse function. It seems to me some of these functions are locked out and not highlighted so I cannot select them Any help is appreciated Simon <snip discussion of G9 vs 400D> > I eventually went for the G9 as I thought it would be easier to use. > > I cannot for the life of me get it onto the RAW mode. I have read the manual > tilll I am blue in the face but I still cannot do it. Canm anyone help > please. If it's anything like a Canon DSLR, RAW mode is only available in the P, AV, TV and M shooting modes, and not any of the Scene or fully-auto- idiot modes. <downloads G9 manual and checks> Yes, that's the case. Look at "functions available in each shooting mode". It's on page 270/271 of the US manual that I downloaded. > Also where is the timelapse function. It seems to me some of these functions > are locked out and not highlighted so I cannot select them Again, the custom self-timer is locked out in certain modes. It's in the manual - page 76 in the US one that I downloaded, with page 270/271 giving full details again. > Any help is appreciated Hope this does help. Ian SignatureIan Riches Bedford, UK > <snip discussion of G9 vs 400D> > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Ian Ian, you're a star, thanks for that much obliged to you |
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