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Buying from Hong Kong on e-bay

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tomch - 31 Aug 2007 23:21 GMT
I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
etc.)

Many thanks.

Tom
A.Lee - 01 Sep 2007 09:33 GMT
> I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
> tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
> etc.)

Direct from the Horses mouth:

> With reference to your enquiry about importing goods from China to the
> United Kingdom.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> If you have any further queries please contact our National Advice Service
> on 0845 0109000 or at www.hmrc.gov.uk

In the real world though, if the value of goods is less then around £18,
there will be no customs duty/VAT. Over this amount, the Duty is around
5%, with VAT added onto the full amount,inc. the postage.
So keep your order value low, and there will be no duty.

Also, are you sure these filters are genuine?
I had a look a few weeks ago, to see if it was worth selling a filter  -
it wasnt, a retail price here is typically £35, yet someone in HK was
doing (allegedly) the same Hoya filter at 99p plus postage. Even for
HK/China prices, that is remarkably cheap, hence I would be sceptical
that it was the real thing.
Alan.
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Malcolm Stewart - 01 Sep 2007 13:30 GMT
>> I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
>> tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
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> HK/China prices, that is remarkably cheap, hence I would be sceptical
> that it was the real thing.

I've bought several spare LiIon batteries for my MiniDisc recorder from Hong
Kong / China at 99p each plus around £8 postage.  (Total cost around 1/3 UK
shop price.) I think the 99p pricing saves the vendor on fees paid to ebay.
Haven't found any difference between the privately imported ones, and that
which came with the recorder, and I presume is genuine.  (Impressive looking
postage stamps.)

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Milton Keynes, UK

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Tony Polson - 01 Sep 2007 13:44 GMT
>I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
>tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
>etc.)

If the item is decalred to eb less than £18 in value, it will not
attract duty, nor VAT and will not be presented to Customs, so no
handling fee either.

Above £18, all packets will be presented to HM Customs by Parcelforce
International, who handle all imports received by Royal Mail too.
Handling fees vary from £3 up to £15 depending on value.  You pay the
handling fee and usually 3.5% import duty, then 17.5% VAT on the total
of the value, the shipping cost, the handling fee and the duty.  Yes,
tax on duty!

Personally I would not recommend Hoya multi-coated filters as they are
exceptionally difficult to clean.  I would strongly recommend B+W and
Heliopan filters, which are made with similar Schott glass and
coatings that are very scratch resistant and much easier to clean. The
Heliopan filters are usually a little cheaper than B+W.
silvercelt - 01 Sep 2007 18:09 GMT
> >I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
> >tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> coatings that are very scratch resistant and much easier to clean. The
> Heliopan filters are usually a little cheaper than B+W.

You may get additional cost if item stopped at customs but that may be
happen.  I think you are unlicky if they pick it out, like when I
ordered from Hong Kong!
Tony Polson - 01 Sep 2007 20:21 GMT
>You may get additional cost if item stopped at customs but that may be
>happen.  I think you are unlicky if they pick it out, like when I
>ordered from Hong Kong!

Thanks for that, silvercelt.

Indeed I should have added that spot checks are done by HM Customs of
items valued at less than £18 unless they are from known and trusted
sources such as 7dayshop.com.
tomch - 01 Sep 2007 22:56 GMT
> I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
> tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tom

Thanks for all your replies.   It's a circular polariser I'm after -
the HK price is about ?28 plus all the extras, compared to about ?90
or more here.   Is it genuine?   I wondered that, so I'd only use a
dealer with a very high feedback score - but I'd still wonder!

I have considered the B+W version - slighly lower cost than Hoya from
Speed Graphic but much higher from CameraWorld.    I see that
CameraWorld have Marumi DHG filters, with "New developed ultra-low
reflection coating for digital camera does minimize flare and
ghost."    Any thoughts.

Tom Chisholm
Tony Polson - 01 Sep 2007 23:46 GMT
>> I'm thinking of buying a Hoya PRO filter on e-bay.  Can someone please
>> tell me what the present "add-on" costs are (duty, tax, PO handling,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>or more here.   Is it genuine?   I wondered that, so I'd only use a
>dealer with a very high feedback score - but I'd still wonder!

If you are buying from a trusted seller with at least a 99% positive
feedback rating, you can be pretty sure it is genuine.  I have bought
some big ticket items from Hong Kong and never had a problem.

>I have considered the B+W version - slighly lower cost than Hoya from
>Speed Graphic but much higher from CameraWorld.    I see that
>CameraWorld have Marumi DHG filters, with "New developed ultra-low
>reflection coating for digital camera does minimize flare and
>ghost."    Any thoughts.

I've never heard of Marumi, but I am a regular customer of Cameraworld
and rate them very highly.  I don't think they would ever sell junk,
but I repeat, I have never heard of the brand.  Some expansive claims
were made when Kood filters were launched on the UK market, but they
were absolute junk, so beware.

My own recent experience is limited to Nikon, B+W and Heliopan
filters.  Several years ago I dabbled with Hoya HMC, Sigma and Tiffen
and I would never touch any of them again.  Nikon filters are reported
to be made by Hoya but the Hoya HMCs are almost impossible to keep
clean while the Nikon filters are a breeze.

In circular polarisers I only use the B+W Kaesemann type.  They are
epoxy sealed at the edges and last a lifetime if taken care of.  All
other polarisers deteriorate from the edges inwards because they are
not sealed, and eventually moisture always enters the sandwich (they
are made of two glasses separated by a plastic mesh).  If you use
cleaning fluids the deterioration can be very rapid indeed!

Unfortunately, they Kaesemann type are very expensive - about 50% more
than the already expensive B+W standard polarisers - but you only ever
need to buy one, because it will last forever.  You can get them at
surprisingly competitive prices from Amazon.com and B&H PhotoVideo in
the USA.  

Go to
http://www.amazon.com/
or
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

and search for "kaesemann polarizer".

A B+W 77mm costs $152.95 at Amazon, which is about £77.  B+H charge
$164.95.  Remember that these are the best polarisers (polarizers)
that money can buy.
Tony Polson - 02 Sep 2007 00:02 GMT
>A B+W 77mm costs $152.95 at Amazon, which is about £77.  B+H charge
>$164.95.  Remember that these are the best polarisers (polarizers)
>that money can buy.

Or look here for a price of $123.90 (£61.44) from a Hong Kong seller
with +11240 feedback of which 99.6% is positive:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290154850859
Newshound - 04 Sep 2007 00:08 GMT
I've had very little problem with HK stuff; they sometimes price low and
make their margin on the postage. I had to send something small back
recently and was astonished to find the airmail was only about £1-20.
 
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