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Thinking of buying Canon 400D

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Grey - 12 May 2007 21:48 GMT
Thinking of upgrading my old Minolta to a Canon EOS 400D. Anyone here have
any opinions, suggestions, good/bad things to say about it?

Thanks,

Graham
A.Lee - 13 May 2007 07:04 GMT
> Thinking of upgrading my old Minolta to a Canon EOS 400D. Anyone here have
> any opinions, suggestions, good/bad things to say about it?

I've got the 350D, which is very similar.
I was going to upgrade to the 400D when Tesco had their offer on, but
didnt think it worthwhile. They are both excellent cameras. I personally
prefer the 350D, mainly as it has a LCD window, above the screen, for
viewing aperture, shutter,frame number etc.
The 400D details are viewed on the screen, and is not so easily visible
in certain light.
The 'internal' features on the 400 are certainly better.
They are nearly idiot proof, and allow a lot of options - more than any
amateur is ever likely to use. The auto focus has been caught out a
couple of times, taking a pic of 2 chaps, 3 feet apart, it focused on
the background - easily sorted by adjusting which sensor(s) are used for
the main focus, but it can catch you out if unaware.
It also wont let you take a pic in autofocus, if it thinks you are too
close, which I found out last week. Even though the image looked in
focus in the viewfinder, the image was out of focus on screen.You can
still take the pic, but have to switch to manual focus. This is rather a
pain when trying to get close ups of items going on ebay.
Overall, they are bloody good.The 350D is available for £300ish, I'm not
sure whether the 400D is worth paying £500 for, when the 350 is still
available at that bargain price.
Alan.
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harrogate3 - 13 May 2007 17:01 GMT
> > Thinking of upgrading my old Minolta to a Canon EOS 400D. Anyone here have
> > any opinions, suggestions, good/bad things to say about it?
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> sure whether the 400D is worth paying £500 for, when the 350 is still
> available at that bargain price.

Don't overlook that it is a commonly accepted fact that the 18-55mm
zoom supplied as standard with the EOS300/350/400 is - to put it
bluntly - crap. You would be better off buying a body and a better
lens, not even necessarily a Canon.

They are both currently cheap as they will both soon be superseded by
the EOS410D.

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Grey - 13 May 2007 20:19 GMT
>> > Thinking of upgrading my old Minolta to a Canon EOS 400D. Anyone
> here have
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> They are both currently cheap as they will both soon be superseded by
> the EOS410D.

Appreciate the advice, and I guessed the standard lens would be slightly
less than what it could be. I have seen some good lenses around, but for me
it's all down to money. Buying the camera is one thing, then I have to get
the spare batteries, charger (does one come with it?), camera bag, filters,
memory cards, flash, assorted other stuff like remotes, tripods and the like
will soak up what availabe 'hobby money' I have for the moment. I have read
enough reviews to convince me the standard lens is adequate for a beginner
like me, however, it will be on my wish-list to upgrade at some point.
Besides, it's always been an ambition of mine to take really good pictures
of moon, stars and the like and a really good lens to do this would probably
cost more than my house. :-)

Graham
A.Lee - 13 May 2007 20:27 GMT
snip about buying a Dslr.
> Appreciate the advice, and I guessed the standard lens would be slightly
> less than what it could be. I have seen some good lenses around, but for me
> it's all down to money.

Dont worry about the std. lens. It is good enough for most uses. there
is a review here:
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/canon_1855_3556/index.htm

So long as you dont use it at its limits, and close the aperture down
one or two stops, then it'll be fine.

> Buying the camera is one thing, then I have to get
> the spare batteries, charger (does one come with it?),

I'm not sure you'll need a spare battery soon, mine has done around 400
shots now,and has not needed charging yet, and yes the charger does come
with it, though you will need to buy a memory card - 1gb is around £20.

> camera bag, filters,
> memory cards, flash, assorted other stuff like remotes, tripods and the like
> will soak up what availabe 'hobby money' I have for the moment. I have read
> enough reviews to convince me the standard lens is adequate for a beginner
> like me, however, it will be on my wish-list to upgrade at some point.

No need to buy that stuff yet. the remote for the Canons is a small IR
switch, 2nd hand at around £10. If you do get a tripod, dont get a cheap
one, save for a better one that will actually keep the camera still.
For astro photography tips, subscribe to uk.sci.astronomy plenty of
experience there, and usually a couple of posts a weeks showing off
good, and not so good pics.
Alan.
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Grey - 13 May 2007 20:34 GMT
> snip about buying a Dslr.
>> Appreciate the advice, and I guessed the standard lens would be slightly
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> good, and not so good pics.
> Alan.

Will do.

Graham
harrogate3 - 13 May 2007 22:42 GMT
> >> > Thinking of upgrading my old Minolta to a Canon EOS 400D. Anyone
> > here have
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>
> Graham

If you must have a spare battery they are quite cheap from the likes
of 7dayshop.com - but you probably won't need one unless you plan on
being away from mains for a while.

The camera comes complete with charger. Again 7dayshop do a quite
cheap base unit (GBP7?) with an adapter extra (GBP2?) that will allow
you to charge the battery from 12V.

Memory cards are dirt cheap at the moment. 1Gb shouldn't cost you more
than GBP20 - get a Sandisk Extreme II, you don't need anything better
than that as the camera (350 anyway) can't use it.

A filter is a good buy as it protects the lens from fingers and
scratches. However unlike my Nikon 18-70 which takes a 67mm filter the
Canon is only 58mm which is a much more common size and therefore much
cheaper.

You won't need a flash unless you want to light a church or the like.
For most 'snaps' the built-in flash is more than adequate.

Remote? Forget it - you won't need it and its ridiculously overpriced.

Tripod? Well maybe, but down the road a bit.

A pouch case is a good idea. The Loewe range are quite competitively
priced - less than GBP30.

So you see it is not too expensive to get going. Get the camera with a
filter and then go and snap away. If you do find you need the extra
bits then think about it later, but for the moment just enjoy it.

You will probably need some software for picture correction and/or
editing. Picasa is free from Google and you will find that it offers
good presets that cover the majority of correction needs. If you find
you need more, get Adobe Elements 5 or PaintShopPro (in whatever
version is current) - there is no need to go to the (stupid) expense
of Photoshop.

Finally, to get the best from your camera shoot in RAW mode which is
an almost undoctored version of what the camera saw - jpg is corrected
quite substantially before saving. Then get yourself a good book on
how to use RAW and you will be amazed at what you can achieve.

Oh, and as I have a Nikon how do I know so much about Canon? My son
(who still lives at home) has one.

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Paul Giverin - 14 May 2007 06:15 GMT
>Memory cards are dirt cheap at the moment. 1Gb shouldn't cost you more
>than GBP20 - get a Sandisk Extreme II, you don't need anything better
>than that as the camera (350 anyway) can't use it.

I bought a Sandisk Extreme III 2Gb card last week for only £18 from
play.com which I thought was great value. They have since put up the
price to £23 but that still isn't too bad.

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/880499/SanDisk-Extreme-III
-CompactFlash-2GB/Product.html

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