I have a Canon S50 digicam and I'm experimenting with DOF on portrait shots,
trying to get a narrow DOF. I'm taking them in Av mode with the aperture set
to 2.8 which is as wide as it will go, with the subject approx 5-6 feet
away. Thing is although the background is not as sharp as the subject it is
still sharper than I would like. Is it possible to get a relatively narrow
depth of field on this type of camera or am I wasting my time trying? If it
is possible can anybody offer any advice on how to achieve it? Does the
distance of the subject from the camera make a difference?
thanks
Gav
Mark Dunn - 23 Oct 2006 12:11 GMT
The sensor is very small, so it requires a short focal length to cover it,
hence lots of DOF. Using the long end of the zoom will help, as will having
the background as far away as you can manage.
But generally, your standard lens is about 6 or 8mm., as against 50 for
35mm. tere's the problem. DSLRs have a somewhat bigger sensor so the problem
is less marked. But your sensor is not much bigger than a fingernail.
> I have a Canon S50 digicam and I'm experimenting with DOF on portrait shots,
> trying to get a narrow DOF. I'm taking them in Av mode with the aperture set
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> Gav
Tony Polson - 23 Oct 2006 13:37 GMT
>I have a Canon S50 digicam and I'm experimenting with DOF on portrait shots,
>trying to get a narrow DOF. I'm taking them in Av mode with the aperture set
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>is possible can anybody offer any advice on how to achieve it? Does the
>distance of the subject from the camera make a difference?
Basically, you are wasting your time trying. Sorry!
The small size of the sensor dictates that you will always get far
greater depth of field than with a larger sensor or 35mm film. This
makes it extremely difficult to obtain a shallow depth of field with a
point and shoot digicam, even with a wide aperture such as f/2.8.
Your main option is to use a digital camera with a much larger sensor
such as a DSLR. The shallowest depth of field will be obtained with a
DSLR using a "full size" sensor such as the Canon EOS 5D or 1Ds Mk II.
The APS-C size sensors in the Nikon, Pentax and Minolta/Sony DSLRs
will give greater depth of field, roughly equivalent to that obtained
with an aperture one f-stop smaller. The Olympus, Panasonic and Leica
DSLRs using the smaller Four Thirds sensor give an even greater depth
of field, equivalent to an aperture two f-stops smaller.
For example, for the same angle of view, using a lens at f/2 on any of
the Four Thirds DSLRs will give about the depth of field you would
expect at f/4 on 35mm film or a Canon EOS 5D.
The sensors in compact point and shoot digicams are tiny even compared
with the Four Thirds sensors, so there is enormous depth of field even
when using a relatively wide aperture such as f/2.8.
Gav - 23 Oct 2006 14:10 GMT
>>I have a Canon S50 digicam and I'm experimenting with DOF on portrait
>>shots,
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> with the Four Thirds sensors, so there is enormous depth of field even
> when using a relatively wide aperture such as f/2.8.
Thanks for the detailed response. I'm planning to get a DSLR next year so
until then I'll give up with the DOF experimenting with the S50. Still got
some films to use on my Film SLR so I'll have a play about with that
instead.
Gav
Tony Polson - 23 Oct 2006 15:07 GMT
>Thanks for the detailed response.
You're very welcome. Glad I could help.
>I'm planning to get a DSLR next year so
>until then I'll give up with the DOF experimenting with the S50. Still got
>some films to use on my Film SLR so I'll have a play about with that
>instead.
A 50mm f/1.4 is a good buy for your SLR/future DSLR. On an APS-C DSLR
it becomes a useful equivalent 75mm f/1.4 and gives the short depth of
field that you need to get defocused backgrounds. 50mm lenses also
tend to be very good performers, and the demand for zoom lenses means
that 50mm lenses are often available for very little money.
Richard Polhill - 23 Oct 2006 16:50 GMT
> Is it possible to get a relatively narrow
> depth of field on this type of camera or am I wasting my time trying?
You're wasting your time.
You can fix it up in photoshop after, but you'll struggle to get it in
the camera with such a small sensor.

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