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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / UK Photography / October 2006Prinzflex glassware
I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of Prinzflex glassware? Are russian lenses always worthy of more than their prices reflect? Is Prinzflex any good, or just cheap? Cheers, Rich > I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to > run a film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Rich Perfectly decent, just not as good as the Western equivalent. I managed with Russian glass on my Zenith for years. The Zenith-E was even marketed as the Prinzflex 500E for a while, presumably to make it appear more German. It won't be as well coated, so you can allow for that. > I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a > film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any > experience or knowledge of Prinzflex glassware? > > Are russian lenses always worthy of more than their prices reflect? Is > Prinzflex any good, or just cheap? Wasn't Prinzflex the Dixons own brand name 35mm SLR system? ______________________________________________________ Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. -- Dick Brandon ______________________________________________________ >> I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to >> run a film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- Dick Brandon > ______________________________________________________ That's the one. It was a Zenith-E with a Prinzflex badge. Message-ID: <Sq-dnYRAR4vHzbLYRVnyvQ@bt.com> from Mark Dunn contained the following: >That's the one. It was a Zenith-E with a Prinzflex badge. <wistful> Ah, the Zenith E! My first real camera. I still remember the heft of it.</wistful>  SignatureGeoff Berrow (put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/ Mine did me for 10 years ut I haven't used it for 20. Well, would you? Bit of a tank. > Message-ID: <Sq-dnYRAR4vHzbLYRVnyvQ@bt.com> from Mark Dunn contained the > following: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > <wistful> Ah, the Zenith E! My first real camera. I still remember the > heft of it.</wistful> Message-ID: <M8KdnRtRBp2wNbLYRVnygA@bt.com> from Mark Dunn contained the following: >Mine did me for 10 years ut I haven't used it for 20. Well, would you? Bit >of a tank. No I wouldn't. But I'm even more wistful after my black OM1 SignatureGeoff Berrow (put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/ > Message-ID: <Sq-dnYRAR4vHzbLYRVnyvQ@bt.com> from Mark Dunn contained the > following: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > <wistful> Ah, the Zenith E! My first real camera. I still remember the > heft of it.</wistful> I started with a Zenith B and hated it. The Industar lens suffered very badly from flare - into the light shots looked like they were taken through thick fog - and the camera was not only heavy but limited to 1/30 - 1/500 shutter speed + B. I was very glad to move into a Fujica ST605 which was small and light and had TTL metering. One of the things that disappoints me about the modern digital SLRs is that little seems to have been done to cut down size and weight - after the OM1 there was a trend for small SLRs for years and then sizes began to creep up again to Zenith sizes, and digital seems to have done nothing to combat this despite using a sensor that is more like APS than 35mm in size. This is why I'm currently looking for a decent digital compact, the sticking point is finding something good with a wideangle lens for my style of pictorial photography. All the compacts seem to use 10 or 14mm sensors which suffer significantly from noise, and the only wideangle compacts I can find are Kodak Easyshare (23mm), Ricoh GR (28mm with 21mm converter) and Panasonic FX10 (28mm), all of which have different shortcomings. Signature______________________________________________________ A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small package. ______________________________________________________ >> Message-ID: <Sq-dnYRAR4vHzbLYRVnyvQ@bt.com> from Mark Dunn contained >> the following: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > (28mm with 21mm converter) and Panasonic FX10 (28mm), all of which > have different shortcomings. I think part of the problem was quality control. My Industar was quite reasonable for flare. Perhaps yours was a Monday morning job. Mind you, mine had a shutter fault from the off and spent 7 weeks at TOE being fixed. As for the size of DSLRs- help! It's a major disincentive. Why, with battery improvements over the last 15 years, they need to be any bigger than an F4 I don't know. Prinzflex was a Dixon's brand name and I don't think it was limited to soviet imports. They may have had japanese (Chinon) imports under that name as well. > > I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a > > film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- Dick Brandon > ______________________________________________________ > > I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a > > film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wasn't Prinzflex the Dixons own brand name 35mm SLR system? Hi. From what I remember of test reports in photo mags of the 1970s, the usual comment about Prinzflex and Edixa / Dixons equipment was usually "reasonable equipment for the price but a pity about the service backup". Edixa had a goodish reputation outside the UK if I remember reviews correctly. Regards, Ian. >>>I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a >>>film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > equipment for the price but a pity about the service backup". Edixa had a > goodish reputation outside the UK if I remember reviews correctly. Yes, almost right. I wrote the Photo Technique review of the Chinon CE-5, and said what a great camera it was, but what a pity it was only sold by Dixons. Dixons sued and got £2000, since it is a libel to imply a negative association of this type (court precedent proven, no chance of defence). Edixa/Prinzflex etc were also sold under many other names. They were generic lenses from the same factory which supplied Photax (Paragon label), Porst in Germany, and many other minor or house brand names. They were mainly very poor, especially the wide-angles. The teles were more reliable, but still had low contrast, low resolution, inadequate coating, and a long list of minus points. Occasionally you got a good one like the 23mm f3.5 Prinzflex wide-angle I once owned, and really quite liked. David I've still got my Photax 135, a touch barrely but serviceable in its day. Come to think of it, I've still got my whole Zenith kit. Not much call for it nowadays, or for the A1. (sigh). > >>>I have an old Prinzflex 200mm lens for Pentax PK. Whilst I need to run a > >>>film through the camera using it, I'm wondering if anyone has any [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > David > I've still got my Photax 135, a touch barrely but serviceable in its > day. Come to think of it, I've still got my whole Zenith kit. Not much > call for it nowadays, or for the A1. (sigh). You have an A1? What FD accessories do you have? What do you intend to do with it? Also, what Zenith equipment do you have? Any nice M42 wide angle lenses? I used to like the Zenith screen being a plain matt glass. So easy to focus and a delight to use when I had one that I used with Pentax lenses! Lomo seem to have taken these over now. Duncan >> I've still got my Photax 135, a touch barrely but serviceable in its >> day. Come to think of it, I've still got my whole Zenith kit. Not much [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Also, what Zenith equipment do you have? Any nice M42 wide angle lenses? I'm planning to hang on to the A1 unless I get a silly offer. 50/1.8, Vivitar 135/2.8 and 2x converter, unspecified Japanese or Korean 28/2.8, power winder. Sorry, just the Zenith, 50 and 58mm, Photax 135 and a 2x converter and extension tubes. > > I've still got my Photax 135, a touch barrely but serviceable in its > > day. Come to think of it, I've still got my whole Zenith kit. Not much [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Also, what Zenith equipment do you have? Any nice M42 wide angle lenses? |
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