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steve jon - 23 Jan 2006 17:30 GMT

I have lots of photos that I quite like but which are in a shoe box under
the stairs. I don't need them as they are more or less duplicates. I was
thinking of putting a sticker on the back of them with details of a business
that I run. However, I don't want them being used by the recipients for any
money making purpose, or even for them to end up on a website. Is there
copyright on photos that I hand out to people outside a bar. Not the sort of
question my solicitor would have a clue about.

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harrogate2 - 23 Jan 2006 18:26 GMT

> I have lots of photos that I quite like but which are in a shoe box under
> the stairs. I don't need them as they are more or less duplicates. I was
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> copyright on photos that I hand out to people outside a bar. Not the sort of
> question my solicitor would have a clue about.

You can always superimpose a copyright symbol onto the print?

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Woody

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steve jon - 23 Jan 2006 20:45 GMT

They are already prints, there are hundreds of them and they are nice enough
to give away. I can't really write "copyright" in pen on the front, writting
"copyright" on the back does'nt seem like it would make any sense. (Is
"copyright" adequately expressed as a small "c" in a circle?)

>> I have lots of photos that I quite like but which are in a shoe box
> under
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> harrogate2 at ntlworld dot com

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harrogate2 - 23 Jan 2006 21:42 GMT

> They are already prints, there are hundreds of them and they are nice enough
> to give away. I can't really write "copyright" in pen on the front, writting
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> >
> > harrogate2 at ntlworld dot com

Internationally accepted symbol.

Can't you put the pics through a printer and put the symbol on?

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Woody

harrogate2 at ntlworld dot com

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Tony Polson - 23 Jan 2006 23:27 GMT

>Internationally accepted symbol.
>
>Can't you put the pics through a printer and put the symbol on?

I have to wonder at the sanity (or otherwise) of someone who wants to
protect the copyright on something of his, of which he is proposing to
distribute multiple copies outside a bar.

No doubt he doesn't want to pay his solicitor a fee, merely to be told
that his scheme makes no sense whatsoever, which of course it doesn't.

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David Littlewood - 24 Jan 2006 01:00 GMT

>I have lots of photos that I quite like but which are in a shoe box under
>the stairs. I don't need them as they are more or less duplicates. I was
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>copyright on photos that I hand out to people outside a bar. Not the sort of
>question my solicitor would have a clue about.

I assume (from the NG you posted on) that you are in the UK. Then, if
you took the photos, you own the copyright*, and they do not legally
require a copyright symbol to make this so. This right is world-wide
(well, for all countries signatory to the relevant convention, which is
virtually everywhere of interest) and lasts until 70 years after your
death.

However, as someone else suggested, handing them out to people at random
means you have very little control over what they do with them. If you
are willing to risk this, then I suggest you should put a sticker on the
back saying "Copyright Steve ..., all rights reserved. For a licence to
use this image please contact [details]. This way, if you do find anyone
using the image without permission they cannot claim they did not know
how to contact you to agree terms.

*Unless you took them in the course of your employment and your contract
of employment transfers copyright of such images to your employer.
There's always a "but" in legal matters....

David

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NickG - 31 Jan 2006 22:11 GMT

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However, I don't want them being used by the recipients for any

>>money making purpose, or even for them to end up on a website. Is there
>>copyright on photos that I hand out to people outside a bar. Not the sort
>>of
>>question my solicitor would have a clue about.

> I assume (from the NG you posted on) that you are in the UK. Then, if you
> took the photos, you own the copyright*, and they do not legally require a
> copyright symbol to make this so. This right is world-wide (well, for all
> countries signatory to the relevant convention, which is virtually
> everywhere of interest) and lasts until 70 years after your death.

> David Littlewood

What he said.

The photos are your copyright. You do not need to mark a copyright symbol to
make this so.

From the moment you pressed the shutter, the copyright was yours.

HTH

-Nick

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Stu Carter - 24 Jan 2006 10:59 GMT

Firstly, sounds like you need a new solicitor.

Secondly, since you're putting stickers on the back, just add "(C) Your
Name, All Rights Reserved" where (C) is the C in a circle symbol. (I
believe that holds more weight than C in brackets.

I am not a lawyer.

If you're handing them out willy-nilly, then also expect them to end up
all over the floor and you to receive a clean-up bill from the local
council.

Cheers,

Stu

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Michael J Davis - 27 Jan 2006 13:58 GMT

Stu Carter <stu@graham.pygmygoat.net> observed

>> I have lots of photos that I quite like but which are in a shoe box under
>> the stairs. I don't need them as they are more or less duplicates. I was
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>I am not a lawyer.

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p02_protecting_copyright

>If you're handing them out willy-nilly, then also expect them to end up
>all over the floor and you to receive a clean-up bill from the local
>council.

Indeed!

Mike

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