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Advice, please: Kittens

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Stu Carter - 03 Dec 2005 08:26 GMT
This weekend, or soon after, I've been asked to take some pictures of some
very lively kittens. I don't have a whole load of equipment, basically an
EOS20D with built-in flash, tripod, and that's about it.

I'm planning to get hold of some lights today, but since the photos will
be in a home, I don't think they'll appreciate me lugging lights or
background cloths in.

So... any suggestions for how to get the best out of the situation? I've
already said I'd prefer to work with daylight so hopefully I'll be able to
use window light.

I'm thinking I'll be working at high ISO, natural light only, no flash
(their eyes are very reflective), and fast shutters because they can't be
made to sit still for any amount of time.

The snapshots I've seen already have rather cluttered backgrounds, so is
it a case of working with depth of field and angles to minimise background
clutter? Wide angle and get in close?

Sorry there's not a lot of information, but anything to help me get more
useable shots out of my hour or so there would be most appreciated.

Cheers,

Stu
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Geoff Berrow - 03 Dec 2005 10:30 GMT
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from Stu Carter contained the following:

>The snapshots I've seen already have rather cluttered backgrounds, so is
>it a case of working with depth of field and angles to minimise background
>clutter? Wide angle and get in close?

Unfortunately that will give you distortion,  Big heads, little bodies.
I usually find that you can get away with limited depth of field as long
as the eyes are in focus.  With more than one kitten though, getting all
the eyes on the same focal plane may be tricky to say the least.  I
suppose that's why you see many shots like this with them lined up in a
basket or something.

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Doctor J. Frink - 03 Dec 2005 10:43 GMT
>The snapshots I've seen already have rather cluttered backgrounds, so is
>it a case of working with depth of field and angles to minimise background
>clutter? Wide angle and get in close?

I would still take some background cloths and lights, if they want some
good pics of their kittens they should be prepared to put up with an
hour or so of putting up with your stuff. I wouldn't rely on good
daylight at the moment if the weather's anything like it is here.

If you don't want to take any backgrounds you might be able to rig
something up from any blankets/sheets the 'client's are willing to let
you use. Limited DOF will be a pain with more than one subject.

Frink

ps Liked the apple...

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Mark Dunn - 03 Dec 2005 16:59 GMT
Daylight won't really do. There's not enough of it and it's usually coming
from the wrong direction. If you can take some studio flash in, you could
light a largish area to give yourself room for manoeuvre. Don't light too
flat though; you need a bit of shape.

> >The snapshots I've seen already have rather cluttered backgrounds, so is
> >it a case of working with depth of field and angles to minimise background
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> ps Liked the apple...
Roger Whitehead - 04 Dec 2005 01:59 GMT
> Advice, please: Kittens

Sack. Canal. Sorted.

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Tony  Polson - 04 Dec 2005 10:06 GMT
>> Advice, please: Kittens
>
>Sack. Canal. Sorted.

You forgot:

Weights.

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Roger Whitehead - 04 Dec 2005 21:16 GMT
Nah. Watching the sack wriggle is half the fun.

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Stu Carter - 13 Dec 2005 10:25 GMT
> This weekend, or soon after, I've been asked to take some pictures of some
> very lively kittens. I don't have a whole load of equipment, basically an
> EOS20D with built-in flash, tripod, and that's about it.

So... the results. Firstly, thanks for your comments - very useful...
however, I didn't manage to get any lights in time, and when I arrived I
judged the mood to be one of complete informality, so I basically allowed
the kitties to do as they pleased and stalked them round taking photos for
an hour.

I mostly shot around 90mm equivalent but after reading the 'big head,
little body' comment, couldn't resist a few at 27mm (17mm on my 1.6x
sensor) to see how they turned out.

I've just been given permission to make the gallery public (had to check
since it was taken in friend's house), so you can see it here:

http://www.pbase.com/kaapiovuohi/kitties

Cheers,

Stu
Michael J Davis - 14 Dec 2005 15:19 GMT
Stu Carter <stu@lists.pygmygoat.net> observed

>> This weekend, or soon after, I've been asked to take some pictures of
>>some  very lively kittens. I don't have a whole load of equipment,
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>http://www.pbase.com/kaapiovuohi/kitties

I should think you are well pleased with those!

Focus generally quite good, which is the most difficult thing with
twitchy animals IMHO.

One suggestion, although flash can disconcert them (sorry you may have
asked about that), I would recommend bounce flash off the walls or
ceiling to get a little more light into the black patches.

Mike

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Stu Carter - 14 Dec 2005 20:20 GMT
> One suggestion, although flash can disconcert them (sorry you may have asked
> about that), I would recommend bounce flash off the walls or ceiling to get a
> little more light into the black patches.

Ah... good point. I must get hold of a decent flash - along with all those
other things :)  I can see exactly the black patches you mean.

Cheers,

Stu
 
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