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Peak b&w prints

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Alex Wilde - 30 Jan 2005 01:52 GMT
From Peaks web site:

"Please note that all black & white prints are produced digitally onto
colour paper."

Has anybody any experience with this? How does it differ from
traditional b&w prints made on normal paper?

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Motor Sport Photography -
http://www.cizeta.demon.co.uk

Mark Dunn - 30 Jan 2005 10:04 GMT
Can't match the sheer depth of silver hand prints. But you'd do that at home
anyway- you probably couldn't tell the difference with machine prints.
> From Peaks web site:
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> Motor Sport Photography -
> http://www.cizeta.demon.co.uk
Nigel - 30 Jan 2005 10:32 GMT
I've been using Peak for a long time, and am generally satisfied with the
b&w service though mainly just for proofs. I had a very fruitful discussion
with them when I started using the service, and for the look I wanted I
specify high contrast printing which does lift the whites more. I think this
is as good as you will get without hand printing. I recommend that you call
them (or any other lab) to discuss your requirements. Customer service is
always a good indicator of eventual satisfaction.

As an aside I also have an Epson 1290 fitted with Lyson Small Gamut inks to
make my own b&w prints from scanned negatives. So far I've only found it
marginally better than printing 'black only' on a normal inkset. Though it
is occasionally useful to impose a colour cast, it would be much better
avoiding one in the first place. I find that the Lyson prints tend towards
green eventually whereas prints from the Epson inks go a little magenta in
comparison. I've yet to try printing b&w on the Epson 2100 though I'm very
pleased with the colour (on mat paper).

Nigel
www.nigelatkinson.biz

> Can't match the sheer depth of silver hand prints. But you'd do that at
> home
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>> Motor Sport Photography -
>> http://www.cizeta.demon.co.uk
Bandicoot - 30 Jan 2005 18:14 GMT
[SNIP]

> I've yet to try printing b&w on the Epson 2100 though
> I'm very pleased with the colour (on mat paper).

The 2100 has worked well for me - the grey balancer is well worth the
effort.  Also does very nice tritones and quadtones, which is now what I do
with B&W rather more often than doing just a pure greyscale.

Peter
Alex Wilde - 30 Jan 2005 18:31 GMT
>I've been using Peak for a long time, and am generally satisfied with the
>b&w service though mainly just for proofs. I had a very fruitful discussion
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>comparison. I've yet to try printing b&w on the Epson 2100 though I'm very
>pleased with the colour (on mat paper).

Thanks for the reply. I'm considering Peak because I've finally given up
on Colab, after a recent order of 5 films had incorrectly cut negs. Some
had 25% cut off. These were colour though.

I've been happy with their b&w service up to press, and wanted opinions
on Peaks service with a view to changing. Colabs b&w prints are made
traditionally. They use differing grades as they see fit, but as I say,
I've been happy; however, they're not getting any more of my custom.

I've also done some printing, on an Epson 925, the precursor to the
R300, with the Epson inks and was wondering about trying some 'black'
inks. If they aren't much of an improvement, I'll not bother. This isn't
really an option ATM, as the scanner I have is pretty poor, and the next
purchase is a Nikkor 70-200 VR, so a new scanner will have to wait a
while.

Are there any other labs that anybody can recommend, for b&w, that I
should consider?

TIA
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Alex Wilde
Motor Sport Photography -
http://www.cizeta.demon.co.uk

 
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