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Digital picture monitor calibration & printing  problems

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Stuart - 24 Nov 2004 11:09 GMT
I'm using a Canon 300D and Canon CP220 dye sub printer.

On the camera screen I'm happy with my exposures and these when viewed on my
PC are always too dark.

If I adjust these  to view on my monitor and then print, then  these images
are always too light. If I print the darker images to my Canon CP 220
printer they come out as I intended them to be shot.

How can I adjust my monitor to get consistency?

I use Win XP Pro and have tried the "adobe gamma control" within control
panel, but this seems to have little effect. My monitor is 3 years old -
could this be the problem?
John Bean - 24 Nov 2004 11:28 GMT
> I'm using a Canon 300D and Canon CP220 dye sub printer.
>
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> panel, but this seems to have little effect. My monitor is 3 years old -
> could this be the problem?

Have a look here:

http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

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Roger Whitehead - 24 Nov 2004 13:28 GMT
> Have a look here:
>
> http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

That's a good 'un.

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John Cartmell - 24 Nov 2004 12:07 GMT
> I'm using a Canon 300D and Canon CP220 dye sub printer.

> On the camera screen I'm happy with my exposures and these when viewed
> on my PC are always too dark.

> If I adjust these  to view on my monitor and then print, then  these
> images are always too light. If I print the darker images to my Canon CP
> 220 printer they come out as I intended them to be shot.

> How can I adjust my monitor to get consistency?

You can't.

> I use Win XP Pro and have tried the "adobe gamma control" within control
> panel, but this seems to have little effect. My monitor is 3 years old -
> could this be the problem?

OK - you can get close for most colours if you use the right software; I
don't know what that would be for those Windows things, but you can never
get it completely right. If it's *only* a matter of brightness then with
the right software you should get tolerably close. If you're looking to get
brightness and colour definition correct then you're almost certainly on a
loser. Whatever you do you will need feedback from printer output back to
the screen as the results will depend critically on the printing process.

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David Kilpatrick - 24 Nov 2004 13:23 GMT
You need to know whether all applications are dark. Adobe Gamma should
be sufficient, but it may simply be you need to use the brightness and
contrast controls of the monitor first. Generally, monitors should be
set to maximum contrast (the half black half white circle symbol on
on-screen controls, or the minotaur itself) and the brightness (sun
symbol) adjusted to a comfortable level.

It could be that the application you use to view pictures is assuming a
different monitor profile from the one you are creating in Adobe Gamma.
Really you need to check all settings, and make sure you do have colour
management enabled and operating consistently.

David

> I'm using a Canon 300D and Canon CP220 dye sub printer.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> panel, but this seems to have little effect. My monitor is 3 years old -
> could this be the problem?

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John Bean - 24 Nov 2004 15:14 GMT
> or the minotaur itself

You can adjust mythical creatures? Impressive!

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Roger Whitehead - 24 Nov 2004 16:57 GMT
> > or the minotaur itself
>
> You can adjust mythical creatures? Impressive!

But it's a labyrinthine procedure.

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Trev - 24 Nov 2004 16:40 GMT
> I'm using a Canon 300D and Canon CP220 dye sub printer.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> panel, but this seems to have little effect. My monitor is 3 years old -
> could this be the problem?

If the print output is as you want all you need do is adjust the brightness
of you monitor.
 
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