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How can I eliminate glare off polished wood?

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Mac Lynch - 20 Sep 2004 18:41 GMT
Kia Ora
My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
I have tried all types of lighting conditions but cannot eliminate the shine
off the wood.
I am unable to treat the wood itself, but is there a form of indirect or
diffused light that may not spoil the photo of this carving my friend has made
& we are so proud of?
Any help would be appreciated.
I am using a Ricoh digital camera.
Thanks
Mac
Donald Qualls - 20 Sep 2004 19:40 GMT
> Kia Ora
> My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanks
> Mac

First possibility -- shoot through a hole in a black panel, so no light
is coming from the camera; supply all light from the sides (out of
field, of course), very diffuse (broad source light behind a muslin
sheet, frosted plastic, etc.); that should show up the relief of the
carving with little or no glare from reflections into the lens.
Alternately, one to three point sources to the side, still shooting
through a hole in a black panel, might give less glare if the relief is
high and reflects the diffusers into the lens; instead of broad areas of
glare, it will then be reduced to an array of points.

Either way, be sure to use either enough light or a camera mode that
will turn off any on-camera flash, to avoid direct glare.

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RSD99 - 21 Sep 2004 01:09 GMT
I wrote this for another thread in a different USENET forum,
but it seems to apply to your situation.

= = = = =
The first thing is loose the camera's built-in flash and get
some decent lighting equipment. Then see some of the
tutorials that are *free* on the web ... such as

Basic Product Shot
Basic Product Up-Close
Techniques for Jewelry
Fine Tuning a Product Shot
Shooting Product Shots with a Photoflex Litedome
    all at
http://www.webphotoschool.com/bhphotovideo/index.html

Or go to
http://www.webphotoschool.com/newschool/Default.asp
and click on "Free Photo Lessons"

Or go to Adorama's site and read
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=article_080403

Or go to Ganoskin's site and read through their articles on
jewelry photography
(includes tips on how to make the equipment you'll need)
http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/directory/library/subject/9

> Kia Ora
> My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanks
> Mac
Uranium Committee - 21 Sep 2004 02:27 GMT
> Kia Ora
> My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
> I have tried all types of lighting conditions but cannot eliminate the shine
> off the wood.

Why do you want to? The shine is part of the object.

> I am unable to treat the wood itself, but is there a form of indirect or
> diffused light that may not spoil the photo of this carving my friend has made
> & we are so proud of?

Why do you think that?

> Any help would be appreciated.
> I am using a Ricoh digital camera.
> Thanks
> Mac
Mac Lynch - 22 Sep 2004 05:11 GMT
>> Kia Ora
>> My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Why do you think that?

Kia Ora
You have made me look at my pics in a different light!!
I must say they are rather nice as they are.

Thanks for opening my eyes.
Mac
Nicholas O. Lindan - 22 Sep 2004 18:51 GMT
> You have made me look at my pics in a different light!!

If you look at things in the right light, how can there be
any darkness.

It all has to do with perception.

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Uranium Committee - 23 Sep 2004 02:55 GMT
> >macknife@ihug.co.nz (Mac Lynch) wrote in message
>  news:<cin4nh$2i7$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>...
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> Thanks for opening my eyes.
> Mac

You're welcome.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 21 Sep 2004 03:04 GMT
> My friend has a lovely carving of praying hands in medium dark polished wood.
> I have tried all types of lighting conditions but cannot eliminate the shine
> off the wood.

Traditional way is to use crossed polarizers to eliminate all reflection:

 o  one polarizer filter on the camera
 o  one sheet of polarizer on (each of) the light(s)  

 o  Replace the subject with a mirror
 o  Fix the camera polarizer (without camera) to a stand
    with tape so you can look through it;  put a dot of tape etc.
    at the top of the polarizer ring.

 o  Turn the lamps on one at a time and rotate the polarizer
    sheets on each lamp so when looking through the camera
    polarizer (at the lamp reflected in the mirror) the lamp
    light disappears
 o  Mark each sheet of polarizer so adjusted with a dot at the top.
    Fix them to the lamps.

 o  If you have hot lights (i.e. not flash) then you can look through
    the camera polarizer and twiddle the lamp polarizers to add 'just
    the right amount' (ha!) of highlight.

 o  Put polarizer filter on the camera lens and adjust so the dot
    is at the top
 o  Take pictures

Sometimes just using a polarizer on the camera will be enough.

> I am unable to treat the wood itself

There is a spray just for this purpose called dulling spray - make sure
it is the temporary stuff! - you spray it on and it comes right off again
with a Kleenex.  You may not like the effect.  Available at theatrical supply
houses or large photo stores.

> but is there a form of indirect or diffused light

Try the biggest, best and cheapest diffuse source: outside on a
grey day.  Try moving a sheet of white cardboard around to reflect
light up into the dark spots on the sculpture.  This reflection technique
should also be used if you are using the artificial light method, above.

Use a lamp (a friend with a flashlight will do) to create highlights.

Also:

Try a sunny day, put the sculpture in light shade, and move large pieces of
white card, aluminum, etc. around to reflect in a little bit of sunshine.

> I am using a Ricoh digital camera

You may need a circular polarizer, or you may not.  If it is the usual type
of digital camera you may have to use sticky tape to hold the pola filter
to the camera.  If you rotate the camera from horiz to vert you will need to
unstick and restick the filter so the dot on the filter is always up.

Any good camera store can supply the camera filter.  Try theatrical supply
houses for the polarizer sheets for the lamps.

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