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denise - 29 May 2005 02:13 GMT
I am a phototography student and I really hate printing. Every time I get
in the dark room I get terrible headaches, dry throat, burning eyes, and I
feel like I have a chemical high when I am done. Other students have
complained of similar symptoms also. Friday, they closed the dark room
because a few of us students were feeling pretty sick. It was the worst
ever. I found out that a staff member has been complaining about poor
ventilation for 3 years. Does anyone know if there are any long term side
effects to these chemicals? Is there anything we can do to get someone to
do something about this problem. Obveously, the school can care less. Help
Mxsmanic - 29 May 2005 10:55 GMT
> I am a phototography student and I really hate printing. Every time I get
> in the dark room I get terrible headaches, dry throat, burning eyes, and I
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> effects to these chemicals? Is there anything we can do to get someone to
> do something about this problem. Obveously, the school can care less.

If it's black-and-white printing with standard chemicals, there isn't
much long-term risk, although you can become hypersensitive to some
types of developer if you don't wear gloves or use tongs when using it
(which means that if you use it again later, it may really irritate your
skin).  Consider, however, that in some countries women put the
equivalent of photo developer on their skin to lighten it (sometimes
with very unfortunate results if they use too much for too long a time),
so if they can do that any live, you can certainly use it in a darkroom
with low risk.

However you look at it, though, it's very important to have good
ventilation, both for your own health and for the best possible results
in printing.  Sounds like your lab isn't ventilated properly.  You could
complain to whatever local government agency manages working conditions
or environmental risks and try to force the school to put in
ventilation; there's no excuse for not having it.  Parts of the darkroom
process liberate small amounts of sulfer dioxide, a foul-smelling gas
that is toxic (and to which some people are particularly sensitive);
this is why you need good ventilation in order to keep the air fresh.

If you are doing work in color, the chemicals are far more toxic, so you
have to be much more careful there.

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Walt Hanks - 31 May 2005 01:47 GMT
>I am a phototography student and I really hate printing. Every time I get
> in the dark room I get terrible headaches, dry throat, burning eyes, and I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> effects to these chemicals? Is there anything we can do to get someone to
> do something about this problem. Obveously, the school can care less. Help

As you have already discovered, a darkroom must be well ventilated.  You can
also reduce the amount of chemical odor by keeping bottles closed and using
only the amount you need at the moment.  Wearing chemical odor masks can
also help.  Your chemistry teacher should have some available.

If the school will not properly ventilate the darkroom, and you live in the
U.S., you can call the local health department and ask them to investigate.
However, this will probably lead to the dark room being closed permanently.
Most schools simply don't have the budget for major renovations.

Walt Hanks
denise - 01 Jun 2005 02:59 GMT
Good advice, thanks. They opened the dark room up only an hour after they
closed it. I guess they think that an air conditioning unit is their
ventilation. How sad. Unfortunately, when you complain , you become black-
balled in a sense. I had some strange looks today at school. ooooooooo
Mxsmanic - 01 Jun 2005 07:40 GMT
> Good advice, thanks. They opened the dark room up only an hour after they
> closed it. I guess they think that an air conditioning unit is their
> ventilation. How sad.

If the A/C draws fresh air in from the outside, they're right.

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Little Green Eyed Dragon - 02 Jun 2005 10:09 GMT
> Good advice, thanks. They opened the dark room up only an hour after they
> closed it. I guess they think that an air conditioning unit is their
> ventilation. How sad. Unfortunately, when you complain , you become black-
> balled in a sense. I had some strange looks today at school. ooooooooo

As well you should be, strange looks were fitting.
zeitgeist - 02 Jun 2005 08:13 GMT
> I am a phototography student and I really hate printing. Every time I get
> in the dark room I get terrible headaches, dry throat, burning eyes, and I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> effects to these chemicals? Is there anything we can do to get someone to
> do something about this problem. Obveously, the school can care less. Help

B&W chems should be fairly benign, color chems can be a problem for some
people, my cousin was almost finished with his masters at RIT when he was
hauled away in an ambulance right out of the darkroom.

I'd suggest that the problem is quite possibly molds and/or mildew, some of
which can be toxic to the point of being a bio hazard.
Andy Davidson - 07 Jun 2005 18:55 GMT
[zeitgeist wrote in rec.photo.technique.people]
>> Does anyone know if there are any long term side
>> effects to these chemicals?
> B&W chems should be fairly benign, [...]

Never hurt me, but always remember to handle prints with tongs, and
consider gloves for when you're cleaning trays afterwards.  Handling
prints with tongs keeps the chemicals off your hands, which might
help if you have sensitive skin, but ALSO means that you wont get
crappy fingerprints all over your work. :-)

(We have everyone on our lab wear white cotton gloves when handling
negs for a similar reason).

Similarly, wearing an old lab coat means that you wont get your
clothes ruined if some chemicals are spilled onto you - it's not
all health and safety nonsense, it can help you in other ways.

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Scott Coutts - 12 Jun 2005 08:28 GMT
> I'd suggest that the problem is quite possibly molds and/or mildew, some of
> which can be toxic to the point of being a bio hazard.

It doesnt seem very likely to me that it would be anything biological
that is causing that kind of reaction. It is not very common to
encounter an environmental fungus that will cause problems, even when
it's growing in relatively high numbers. Also, those symptoms dont
really add up in the context of fungal problems.
John - 10 Jun 2005 10:34 GMT
> I am a phototography student and I really hate printing. Every time I get
> in the dark room I get terrible headaches, dry throat, burning eyes, and I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> effects to these chemicals? Is there anything we can do to get someone to
> do something about this problem. Obveously, the school can care less. Help

    Good ventilation is a necessity however most of the schools I've been to
are very aware of this and usually have a large light-trap door which
allowes for good airflow. 90% of the chemicals in B-&-W are completely
innocuous though some people do seem to be abnormally sensitive to some
chemicals. Typical reactions do not include the symptoms that you are
describing so I would recommend that you consult with a physician about
your particular circumstances and symptoms.

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