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Pine Marten, and I didn't have a camera

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Canon F1 - 12 Nov 2005 03:27 GMT
I live in Idaho.  We hunt in Idaho.  I only hunt for food as I feel I can
participate in the food chain.  However, I hunt more and more with a camera.
It is by far the most challenging way to hunt and the "trophies" still run
free.

I was in the mood for some Whitetail Deer steaks and went afield rifle in
hand to fill the freezer.  I should have never left my camera at home.  

I met a Pine Marten.  I saw him bound across the snowy Aspen Stand  some 50
yards in front of me and up a leaning tree.  I approached really slow as he
(or she) was the first of his kind I had seen in the wild though I have spent
decades in the woods.  I beleive it is just as likely to see a Yeti roaming
around in the woods as see a Marten.  I approached pretty close, then closer
still until I was with in 5-6 feet.  I talked to him for 1/2 an hour, but the
conversation was one sided as he had nothing to say.  He did warm up to me
after several minutes and he would walk up pretty close to me as I leaned
against his leaning perch.  Several times he rubbed his head against a
protruding limb kind of like a house cat would when it wanted to be fed or
petted.  I didn't think it was wise to pet a Marten or even feed one for that
matter as he must feed himself.

I would have traded my 1000 dollar rifle at that moment for a disposable
camera, without further barter.  I thought of my Canon A1 sitting at home or
my old trusty F1 or any of the AE1's and a 50mm lens would have been plenty
of focal length to produce wonderful photos.  

After a while, I decided to leave him be where he could go back to being a
Marten instead of a show off for his one man audience.  I bid farwell to my
'mustelidea' friend and walked away.  I looked back when I had retreated 20
yards or so and he was still sitting on his leaning tree looking after me as
if to say "where you going?"  

I returned to day to this spot with only my camera hoping to find him again
but he was long gone.  I plan on another trip or two and with any luck, we
will meet again.  

I need to just do my hunting with a camera period.

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Liz - 13 Nov 2005 12:16 GMT
> I need to just do my hunting with a camera period.
Oh yes.
But also try peanuts as 'bait'.

Slainte

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Canon F1 - 13 Nov 2005 15:40 GMT
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>Oh yes.
>But also try peanuts as 'bait'.
>
>Slainte
>
>Liz

Huh?  Pine Martens are carnivors.  I would have to set out chipmunks and
small birds for bait.

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Liz - 13 Nov 2005 22:08 GMT
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>>Oh yes.
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> Huh?  Pine Martens are carnivors.  I would have to set out chipmunks and
> small birds for bait.

They do it in northern Scotland, and it works.
They've been coming to peanut feeders (put out for birds) for years.

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Cyli - 14 Nov 2005 01:40 GMT
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>>Oh yes.
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>F1
Foxes are classed as carnivores, but they'll eat grapes and veggies.
I believe coyotes are classed as carnivores and they'll do the
occasional veggie.   Maybe (I don't know much about pine martens)
they're only _mostly_ carnivorous?

Cyli
r.bc: vixen.  Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Canon F1 - 14 Nov 2005 03:10 GMT
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>>>Oh yes.
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>occasional veggie.   Maybe (I don't know much about pine martens)
>they're only _mostly_ carnivorous?

I think most any carivor could eat veggies, but it is more likely they feed
on meat.

>Cyli
>r.bc: vixen.  Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
>Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

Minnow Goddess?  Speaker to squirrels?  Often taunted by trout? ..... You
care to elaborate on that?

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no_name - 14 Nov 2005 02:58 GMT
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> F1

Peanuts would attract chipmunks and small birds ...
Liz - 14 Nov 2005 09:44 GMT
> Liz wrote:

[re photographing Pine Martens]

>>>... also try peanuts as 'bait'.

>> Huh?  Pine Martens are carnivors.  I would have to set out chipmunks and
>> small birds for bait.
> Peanuts would attract chipmunks and small birds ...

Which you could photograph while waiting for the Pine Martens.
:-)

Slainte

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Liz - 14 Nov 2005 12:11 GMT
>> Liz wrote:
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> Which you could photograph while waiting for the Pine Martens.
>:-)

BTW -
Peanut butter does just as well:
http://eastercorrie.com/bird_watching.php ...scroll down to June 2004

My husband's drawings from the Speyside Wildlife hide:
http://www.spectrus.co.uk/celtic/marten.htm

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BirdOasis - 14 Nov 2005 15:43 GMT
Hunting with your camera is alot of fun, but I'd like to see you try
eating your photos.  haha.

I live near Spokane WA.  Are you in the panhandle area of idaho?  I'll
go hunting with you and take my camera, you take the gun and we'll get
something for sure.

John Patrick
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Canon F1 - 15 Nov 2005 03:10 GMT
>Hunting with your camera is alot of fun, but I'd like to see you try
>eating your photos.  haha.
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>John Patrick
>www.birdoasis.com

I live in SE Idaho unfortunatly.  I think Northern Idaho would be a better
place to live but my job is at the INL as an equipment operator.

Years ago, I hunted a lot as I needed the meat.  I made a promise to myself
long agon that if I got to the point I didn't need to put wild game on the
table and could afford to eat more ugly cows, I would slow down the hunting.
I still have the instinct to hunt and enjoy the hunt, but truthfyully, it has
been a few years since I bagged anything.  I still own a fair gun collection
and do some competition shooting as well as just plain target shooting.  My
love of guns falls only second to my love of cameras.

The funny thing, in both guns and cameras, I prefer older equipment.  No
digitals for me.

Thx all for the posts.
RahQ5@webtv.net - 19 Nov 2005 22:21 GMT
I didn't know what a pine marten was so I looked it up ......found this:
http://www.all-creatures.org/aw/pinemarten.html

Wow....your pictures would have been just neat!! Hope you can get some!!
Love all kinds of wildlife too!!
rachell
  DON'T FORGET YOUR CAMERA EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO MOUNT IT TO YOUR GUN!
lol.....
Canon F1 - 20 Nov 2005 01:40 GMT
>I didn't know what a pine marten was so I looked it up ......found this:
>http://www.all-creatures.org/aw/pinemarten.html
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>   DON'T FORGET YOUR CAMERA EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO MOUNT IT TO YOUR GUN!
>lol.....

I did cut down a rifle stock and I use it for wild life photography.  I mount
the lens to the stock and the camera behind that.  It helps a bunch on moving
wildlife shots.

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