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35mm Film for Nature Photography

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Faisal Zubair Qureshi - 05 Jan 2005 16:21 GMT
Hey guys,

What would be a good 35mm film for photographing rain forests, which
usually exhibit lush and vibrant colors. Also the light might be poor at
the forest floor.

Thanks.
- faisal.
Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 05 Jan 2005 18:15 GMT
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Fuji velvia (iso 50) and a tripod.  If you want speed,
Fuji Provia 100 (again with a tripod).

Just my opinion.

Roger
http://www.clarkvision.com
Faisal Zubair Qureshi - 06 Jan 2005 21:08 GMT
Thanks Roger. BTW, your pictures are excellant. - faisal.

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Jeff Keller - 07 Jan 2005 16:44 GMT
I few people recommend using film with less saturated, colors if you scan
the images. They have good luck boosting the saturation in photoshop when
desireable but have more success with shadows etc with high contrast scenes.
... Fuji Astia100
There are also those who like the look of Velvia and haven't been able
re-create what they like with imaging software even though they are quite
proficient with the software.
-jeff

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 10 Jan 2005 22:12 GMT
> What would be a good 35mm film for photographing rain forests, which
> usually exhibit lush and vibrant colors. Also the light might be poor
> at the forest floor.

Kodachrome 64 and a tripod.

I guess the only thing all can agree on is to take a tripod.

I recommend taking a macro lens and a flash.  A 'Sto-Fen'(?) bouncer
in front of the flash (with the flash facing forwards) will send
light down to illuminate the subject.

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me - 11 Jan 2005 17:23 GMT
> > Hey guys,
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> Fuji velvia (iso 50) and a tripod.  If you want speed,
> Fuji Provia 100 (again with a tripod).

Don't forget Fuji Velvia iso 100. ;-)
Film best,
me
Doug Greenwald - 11 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT
Being a long-time shooter of the original 50 speed Velvia, I have been using
both speeds of Velvia side by side.  I figure eventually Fuji will
discontinue the 50 speed so I want to make sure that the 100 speed will be a
suitable replacement.

So far I've been happily impressed.  Velvia 100 is sharp and has the vibrant
colors I have come to expect from Velvia.

When I get the Christmas lights rolls processed, we'll see how it compares
with night photography.

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Doug Greenwald
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doug.greenwald@gmail.com

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Robert Kulp - 16 Aug 2005 01:58 GMT
>Hey guys,
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>Thanks.
>- faisal.
I would use kodak supra800 with a flash or the 100 with a tripod
Bill Hilton - 16 Aug 2005 05:19 GMT
>What would be a good 35mm film for photographing rain forests, which
>usually exhibit lush and vibrant colors. Also the light might be poor at
>the forest floor.

Another vote for Velvia, IF the light is not too contrasty.  It will
make the colors pop and excels in low contrast light.  If the light is
high contrast (ie, no cloud cover) either don't shoot or maybe try a
less contrasty film like Astia 100F or even print film.

Bill
Alan Justice - 17 Aug 2005 17:06 GMT
I usually wait for foggy days to shoot the redwoods, but you're saying Astia
might be worth a try in higher contrast situations.  But isn't it the
consumer version of Provia?  I believe the pro Fujis have a range of +/- 2
stops.  What is it for Astia?  Anyway, I'll get some and give it a try.
Thanks for your usual pearls of wisdom.

--
- Alan Justice

> >What would be a good 35mm film for photographing rain forests, which
> >usually exhibit lush and vibrant colors. Also the light might be poor at
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Bill Hilton - 17 Aug 2005 18:43 GMT
> Alan Justice wrote ...
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> I usually wait for foggy days to shoot the redwoods ...

That's what I'd do, trying to avoid the contrasty light ... but if the
guy is going to the rain forest and can't wait long for better light
then he might try some of these solutions with wider contrast ranges.

> ... but you're saying Astia might be worth a try in higher
> contrast situations.

It's a lower contrast film (I like it for portraits) but it's still
tough to shoot slide film in contrasty light, I feel ... it should
perform better than Velvia under these conditions, but waiting for
lower contrast light is still better in my book, if he can wait.

>But isn't it the consumer version of Provia?

Nope, Astia 100F is a pro film like Provia 100F and the 3 Velvias ... I
used to use Velvia (very saturated) for landscapes, Provia 100F
(somewhat saturated) for wildlife and Astia 100F (neutral saturation)
for portraits ... Fuji also sells Sensia, which is a consumer version
of Astia, which is probably what you're thinking about.  Actually
Sensia might be better for traveling to the rain forest since you won't
be able to keep the film cooled.

I don't think there's a consumer version of Provia 100F, but could be
wrong.  For sure it's not Astia though.

>I believe the pro Fujis have a range of +/- 2 stops.  What is it for Astia?

Maybe another half stop or 3/4 stop ... which is why it's still tough
shooting slide film in contrasty light :)  And why I mentioned print
film.

I was shooting macros in a forest on a cloudless day a couple of weeks
ago (with macros you can control the contrast with diffusers, as you
know) but I thought the light was way too contrasty to shoot the actual
forest with film.  Since it was kind of pretty in the small meadow with
the wind whipping the grass and aspen leaves I thought I'd play around
with digital and go with the contrast and do some abstract blurs,
shooting at slow shutter speeds and panning with the wind, then relying
on the RAW converter software to compress the tonal range to something
workable.  Here are a couple of results shot handheld at 1/4 - 1/2 sec,
the streaks of light are specular highlights from the direct sun
hitting leaves ... I don't think I could have done this with slide film
due to its tighter contrast range, the highlights would have burned out
too much or, had I exposed for highlights the dark areas would be too
dark ...

http://members.aol.com/hiltonfotography/forest_2_detail.jpg
http://members.aol.com/hiltonfotography/forest_1.jpg

Bill
Alan Justice - 19 Aug 2005 17:14 GMT
"Bill Hilton" <bhilton665@aol.com> wrote in message >

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> http://members.aol.com/hiltonfotography/forest_2_detail.jpg

Wow!!!
 
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